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Old 02-15-2012, 09:05 AM    (permalink
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If the restructure won't work I will have to cut the guy.
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Pretty sucky though, I was hoping Loomis woulda jokingly added if he runs for 1k we get a 2nd.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:12 AM    (permalink
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If the restructure won't work I will have to cut the guy.
Yeah, just to keep everything fair, I'll just have you release him. If you want him back cheaper, try to resign him and explain that in your arguments. If he doesn't get better offers elsewhere, he'll probably resign.

That goes for anyone who wants to resign someone they've cut.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:43 AM    (permalink
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Do we need to leave space for rookies and how much does each free agent group cost against the cap?
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:46 AM    (permalink
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The only way restructuring would work if its a younger guy late in his contract with a high cap number this year getting a long term extension to lower his number. Wouldn't mind being able to do that, maybe each team can get one of those if it makes sense and BB approves the extension?
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:47 AM    (permalink
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The only way restructuring would work if its a younger guy late in his contract with a high cap number this year getting a long term extension to lower his number. Wouldn't mind being able to do that, maybe each team can get one of those if it makes sense and BB approves the extension?
It's a tad late for those of us who released guys we would have tried to restructure, lol.
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The only way restructuring would work if its a younger guy late in his contract with a high cap number this year getting a long term extension to lower his number. Wouldn't mind being able to do that, maybe each team can get one of those if it makes sense and BB approves the extension?
What about the young guys that out performed their contracts? I'm sure Victor Cruz will be making noise come the start of the season if he doesnt get a better deal.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:51 AM    (permalink
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Do we need to leave space for rookies and how much does each free agent group cost against the cap?
No, I included that already. I feel like I explained this somewhere already but the article listing the 2012 cap numbers doesn't account for the $5 million teams save for rookies and in-season moves. They do mention it though. So, I set the cap to $125 and deducted $5 million for each team.

This has already been included in my calculations for every team, so none of you need to worry about it.

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It's a tad late for those of us who released guys we would have tried to restructure, lol.
Indeed. If you want the guy back, try to resign him as a free agent and just explain that you wanted to keep him after a restructure and all that. If interest isn't high in him otherwise, you're odds of getting him back are good.
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:51 AM    (permalink
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What about the young guys that out performed their contracts? I'm sure Victor Cruz will be making noise come the start of the season if he doesnt get a better deal.
I dont think we are worried about that, since we are just looking at offseason.

Just go ahead with the stuff he laid out.
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Are there going to be updated cap numbers?
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It's a tad late for those of us who released guys we would have tried to restructure, lol.
You probably wouldn't cut a young guy who you'd like to extend.
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Are there going to be updated cap numbers?
I'm not going to post exact numbers, but if you guys would like it, I'll make another post similar to my previous one in the media thread letting everyone know generally where they stand.

If I start throwing out exact numbers as I have them, there will be minor disagreements EVERYWHERE.

"Where did you get that I'm only $30 million under? My calculations are that I should be $31.5 million under! WTF BB as;ldkfjal;skjdfa;lkajsf!!!!!!!!!"

If one million makes a difference in not getting a guy, then you should have made better arguments.
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i know it's a stupid and insignificant thing and I hate being that guy, but it says on the giants site Ballard and Pascoe as RFA's...can I just say I keep them because let's be real here...it's 2 white guys, one with a torn ACL and one is bear pascoe
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i know it's a stupid and insignificant thing and I hate being that guy, but it says on the giants site Ballard and Pascoe as RFA's...can I just say I keep them because let's be real here...it's 2 white guys, one with a torn ACL and one is bear pascoe
They're both exclusive rights I believe. I left them off the free agent list as result.

If no other team has a chance to actually sign the guy, I didn't bother putting him on the list. And that is how Exclusive Rights free agents work. It's almost an oxymoron to call them a "free agent."

They're "free" to sign only with the team they're currently on.

And they're all typically on minimum deals, so everyone keeps them at no penalty.
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i know it's a stupid and insignificant thing and I hate being that guy, but it says on the giants site Ballard and Pascoe as RFA's...can I just say I keep them because let's be real here...it's 2 white guys, one with a torn ACL and one is bear pascoe
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i'll trade you jermichael finley
uhm, did you just read BB's post? I can keep Ballard and Pascoe for virtually nothing. I don't need Finley
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uhm, did you just read BB's post? I can keep Ballard and Pascoe for virtually nothing. I don't need Finley
Yeah, you keep them, but it's not like either is a world beater. Plus Ballard and Beckum are expected to start the year on the PUP list...you'll need a TE eventually.
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If most of the teams have submitted everything, free agency will hopefully open up tomorrow morning.
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Yeah, you keep them, but it's not like either is a world beater. Plus Ballard and Beckum are expected to start the year on the PUP list...you'll need a TE eventually.
i guess someone was too busy making incriminating news stories to turn on their sarcasm meter...
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Yeah, you keep them, but it's not like either is a world beater. Plus Ballard and Beckum are expected to start the year on the PUP list...you'll need a TE eventually.
what he said...
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i guess someone was too busy making incriminating news stories to turn on their sarcasm meter...
that was the least sarcastic post ever lol.
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Ravens will have their stuff in by tonight. Just going through cuts and so on.
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Ravens will have their stuff in by tonight. Just going through cuts and so on.
For the fun of the mock you should just let Ray Rice walk ;)
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