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Old 02-18-2012, 07:57 PM    (permalink
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I never said he won't be great. I said he's overrated. As in overrated if he's being taken in the 1st or 2nd, compared to the depth of WR in this class. Maybe I should have used "overvalued".

Britt is an easy call. He's obviously more explosive and bigger than Sanu.

Rishard Matthews is mediocre? LOL...wow. Some of us actually pay attention to other players in the draft.
Britt was an easy call, I'm well aware. Fun fact: Sanu has been better and more dominant at Rutgers with much less talent on offense than Britt. Britt also had some problems with the dropsies at Rutgers.

Again, you're not giving any reason to WHY. You're just saying "he's overvalued", which again, I disagree with. He's a first rounder, absolutely.

And yeah, sorry a guy with one breakout year at Nevada doesn't excite me. He's a mediocre prospect, hence why you said "in the 4th round" for him. I get it, he's your boy, but those 2 nice youtube videos of him don't excite anyone. But sorry if I stepped on your toes saying he was mediocre.

edit: Sanu returned punts at Rutgers too. so there's that.

Sanu's the only real draftable guy from RU this year, so I've been paying MORE attention to the draft than I have in past years instead of focusing on my guys, but nice try. Matthews can be a decent pick in the mid-rounds. That's mediocre.
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Old 02-18-2012, 09:35 PM    (permalink
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I'll continue the Matthews talk in the proper thread so as to not get off topic.
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I think Sanu has the talent to become a starter in the NFL, but I doubt he goes first round.

Athletically Sanu is going to have to impress more than he has on film, whether that's because of scheme limitations or his own physical ability.

Kenny Britt was 6'3/220#, ran a mid 4.4 and still only went pick 30.

I have a hard time seeing Sanu as a top 32 pick because I don't think he has the tools to be a number 1 WR.
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Greg Schiano's porn was the wild cat. Look at Sanu's rushing numbers. Along with Jeremy Deering, our RB/WR. The unreal obsession with the wildcat made Savage transfer, Sanu's numbers digress (and cause him to be injured a bit as well, he was banged up all year) and Rutgers fans want to vomit every game. It was horrendous
Thanks for the information. Just two more questions, is Sanu kind of similar to Michael Crabtree? Or do you think he can be more explosive than Crabtree?

I've already settled on the fact Crabtree will be nothing more than a 2 Wr at best.
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Won't ever be a #1 WR running a 4.6 at 211 lbs. Although he did put up a good broad jump, vert, and 3-cone. ;-)
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Won't ever be a #1 WR running a 4.6 at 211 lbs. Although he did put up a good broad jump, vert, and 3-cone. ;-)
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I can't see him going in round 1. He just doesn't get separation or have much for speed. Great hands and body control, but that sounds more like a #2 receiver in round 2 to me.
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I can't see him going in round 1. He just doesn't get separation or have much for speed. Great hands and body control, but that sounds more like a #2 receiver in round 2 to me.
Prock, would you say this sums up Sanu for you?

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BIO: Junior entry who leaves school a year early after winning All-Conference Honors, leading respective college in all receiving categories. Performed terribly at the Combine, running poorly and struggling during pass catching drills. Has been used sporadically at QB.

POSITIVES: Nice-sized wide out who consistently makes positive plays for the offense. Extends and catches the pass away from his frame, boxes out defenders and effectively runs after the reception. Adjusts to the errant throw, reaching back to catch the ball without breaking stride. Settles into the open spot on the field, looks the pass into his hands and pulls the throw out of the air. Displays focus, concentration and timing.

NEGATIVES: Not quick off the line of scrimmage, lacks sharpness running routes and overall quickness. Does not have the second gear or have separation downfield.

ANALYSIS: Not as bad as he looked at the Combine but his draft ranking will suffer none the less. A viable possession receiver at the next level who sneaks it downfield on occasion.

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I think Sanu gets his number called in the mid second round... his numbers forty time does not do him justice but he falls into the stigma of someone who doesn't stretch the field. His hand eye coordination is and body control are elite.. evidence can been seen with his circus catches in the USF and UNC games if you need a visual.

The area that he needs to improve imo is his route running.. he has the lower body strength to explode in and out of his cuts but rounds the top of routes too often. I think a good comparison to what Sanu can be is a young Mushin Muhammed.
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Boldin is much stronger than Sanu. Chad definitely plays faster than his 4.57 forty.

Sanu plays like the 4.6 guy that he is.
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Everyone always brings up Boldin and Rice, I just don't get. Boldin ran his 4.72 at the combine with a leg injury. He re-ran the 40 again at his Pro Day, when he still wasn't quite 100%, and got a time in the high 4.5s. Jerry Rice played in his prime 20 years ago. The game has sped up considerably since then. Not to mention that Rice had the best combination of hands and route running of any player to ever play the game.

This isn't a Kendall Wright situation where there is a big discrepancy between the film and the workouts. On film Sanu doesn't play very fast and struggles to separate. I think he's a good player, but he's a definite #2 receiver and isn't going to be taken in the 1st round. He's probably a luxury pick at the end of the 2nd round and is more than likely looking at being picked in the early 3rd round.
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I think he'll go within the first 15 picks of the 2nd round now. I thought he could sneak into the top 25 with a good run at the combine but I don't see it happening now.
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Jerry Rice, Barry Sanders, Drew Brees.. .etc. Lets not bring these guys into any comparisons anymore, they aren't the norm.

I guess the Sanu fans saying we were all crazy for thinking he's slow have some crow to eat. Dude is slow on film, and slower in workouts. Anquan Boldin, he is not.
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I'm not as high on Sanu as some of you guys are. That doesn't mean I don't think he'll be a very solid #2 at the next level. I just don't see him ever being a #1 Receiver and think he's more of a mid-late 2nd rounder.
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