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Old 02-17-2012, 04:32 PM    (permalink
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After cutting Haynesworth, The Bucs have around 69 million in cap space. Hoepfully they land a big name and some mid-level target guys. DE/DT, LB, and CB.
If you get any big named free agents I expect youll will be overpaying them, because if its even money wise they will go to a team thats more ready to win now. Ala Jeff Faine.
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This will be an interesting scenario I think. To my knowledge the Texans are around 20m in cap space, which to my knowledge is not including the rookie pay.

It would cost the Texans what 8 or so mill to franchise foster, but they'd be letting mario run free. Otherwise they could franchise mario (at a whopping 22m) and tender foster. If they tendered him and I were a team like the Bengals, I'd frontload the contract to for next year possibly the first two, giving him a huge part of the money right then. Then when the cap actually comes to place he wouldn't it as much and the Texans may not be able to match
Williams will hit free agency because Texans will not franchise him and while they could re-sign him, they dont need him. Their defense played damn good in the eleven games he missed. I personally would let him leave, extend Foster (or franchise him if he cant be extended) and find a second good receiver to start opposite Johnson.

If the Texans dont franchise Foster by the deadline and he's still an RFA, I would say that he's as good as gone.

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Staley, Iupati, Goodwin, and Davis... what exactly do you need OL wise?
We need an RG. I would love Nicks or Grubbs to solidify the line but re-signing Snyder and going after a top tier WR is a better idea. If there's no top tier WR, then I easily go after Nicks or Grubbs.

49ers biggest needs are WR and RG. CB and OLB would be secondary needs because if Rogers leaves, the 49ers will start Brown/Culliver. They'll just have to sign a veteran to play nickelback and draft another corner somewhere. If Brooks leaves, Haralson and Smith will start at OLB but there's no depth behind them at all. Rather see Brooks get re-signed to start opposite Smith sending Haralson to the bench.

49ers are set everywhere else. Draft and a few veteran signings will be for depth purposes but in terms of starters, WR is the clear cut number one need while RG would be second.
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Williams will hit free agency because Texans will not franchise him and while they could re-sign him, they dont need him. Their defense played damn good in the eleven games he missed. I personally would let him leave, extend Foster (or franchise him if he cant be extended) and find a second good receiver to start opposite Johnson.

If the Texans dont franchise Foster by the deadline and he's still an RFA, I would say that he's as good as gone.
Yeah lol hes worth a 1st round and an elite deal

EDIT: Even if he did get franchised the bengals could get him if they gave up two firsts, i'd say it would be worth it
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Yeah lol hes worth a 1st round and an elite deal

EDIT: Even if he did get franchised the bengals could get him if they gave up two firsts, i'd say it would be worth it
The Bengals would be better off trading up for Richardson if they are trading draft picks for a RB.
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The Bengals would be better off trading up for Richardson if they are trading draft picks for a RB.
Arian Foster > Trent Richardson
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Foster won't have that type of sucess outside of a ZB scheme.
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Foster won't have that type of sucess outside of a ZB scheme.
Change to a zone blocking scheme. Foster IMO is the best RB in the league.
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Change to a zone blocking scheme. Foster IMO is the best RB in the league.
That means the Bengals would have to change the entire OL and give up multiple draft picks for Foster. Or they could just give up a couple picks for Richardson and have better production from him.
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That means the Bengals would have to change the entire OL and give up multiple draft picks for Foster. Or they could just give up a couple picks for Richardson and have better production from him.
fine... foster is a tank though and i think he could do well in a non zb scheme
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It's a silly complaint, but the Lions will have a hard time reaching the next level with so much money tied up in three players (Stafford, Megatron, Suh)
Yeah, its a good problem to have. I think all 3 will be top 5 at their position next year though.
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Yeah, its a good problem to have. I think all 3 will be top 5 at their position next year though.
Not if it clogs the cap, and all that money is centered around them.
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Not if it clogs the cap, and all that money is centered around them.
But if he has an elite QB, WR and DT what else do you need? the packers alreday proved you can win without defense
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But if he has an elite QB, WR and DT what else do you need? the packers alreday proved you can win without defense
Other players to step up. Luck, Lightning in a bottle, and very good depth, because just like the Packers, and our fan base know, you need good depth to come over injuries. Elite coaching and a great staff helps too.
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With a healthy Stafford and Best and Suh playing like he can this team has to be considered serious superbowl contenders.
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With a healthy Stafford and Best and Suh playing like he can this team has to be considered serious superbowl contenders.
They are doing well, but anyone who watches football or has been part of it understands things change big time from year to year. So while they did well this year, let's see how things shake out next year, and the year after. In this free agency era, being consistent is a tough thing. I am not too confident in Best especially with his concussion issues. However, like I mentioned before, they need more than just 3 players in Johnson, Stafford, and Suh. You are going to need depth in this free agency era to succeed.
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I've heard rumors thats a lot of people think Best will never play again. I wouldn't go into the season relying on him.
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I've heard rumors thats a lot of people think Best will never play again. I wouldn't go into the season relying on him.
that would blow for the lions then. might have to consider taking a running back in the top 3 rounds because i think SMith and Morris are free agents. There arent too many free agents they could pick up either. Cedric Benson might be the best of a **** group.
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With a healthy Stafford and Best and Suh playing like he can this team has to be considered serious superbowl contenders.
Yeah I dunno about that. The Lions did a nice job beating bad teams last year, but they lost to every good team they played.

Very simple fact: the Lions didn't beat a single team with a winning record last season. That's pretty damning when you want to throw "Superbowl contender" around. They're a few steps behind New York, Green Bay, New Orleans, and San Fran.
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Yeah I dunno about that. The Lions did a nice job beating bad teams last year, but they lost to every good team they played.

Very simple fact: the Lions didn't beat a single team with a winning record last season. That's pretty damning when you want to throw "Superbowl contender" around. They're a few steps behind New York, Green Bay, New Orleans, and San Fran.
thats what everyone was saying about the bucs last year lol. maybe a top 5 selection then...
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One thing that's important to note is that in this FA era, every year can have big shifts. One year a team can be good, and the next they can suck. Factor in bad coaching, injuries, and what else, it makes being consistent now a days pretty hard.
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Foster won't have that type of sucess outside of a ZB scheme.
We don't know that, because he is in a ZB scheme, and he's the best RB in the league in it.
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Yeah I dunno about that. The Lions did a nice job beating bad teams last year, but they lost to every good team they played.

Very simple fact: the Lions didn't beat a single team with a winning record last season. That's pretty damning when you want to throw "Superbowl contender" around. They're a few steps behind New York, Green Bay, New Orleans, and San Fran.
The Pats didn't beat anyone with a winning record this year either until the AFC Championship game.
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One thing that's important to note is that in this FA era, every year can have big shifts. One year a team can be good, and the next they can suck. Factor in bad coaching, injuries, and what else, it makes being consistent now a days pretty hard.
the best way to stay consistent is too have an elite quarterback and thats exactly what the lions have. they'll be in the playoffs again next year.
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The Pats didn't beat anyone with a winning record this year either until the AFC Championship game.
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