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Old 02-27-2012, 04:09 PM    (permalink
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Last year he played at undrafted level and he's a c***. Thats why he is going to go undrafted.
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From what I saw of him I saw a 3rd-4th round player but I figured I was just missing something. He must've been completely different as a sophomore. So what happened?
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I gues JBCX may have been right about something then, haha.
Except that about two weeks before JBCX said he wasn't high on Burfict he said that he had potential to be a Ray Lewis type player.
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Last year he played at undrafted level and he's a c***. Thats why he is going to go undrafted.
Did you watch him play last year? He didn't play like he did as a Soph but he definitely did not play like an undrafted player.
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Against Georgia, I think it was Freshman year you could tell he was going to be good after that game. Then this year happen lol but I still like him and this thread is a overreaction.

I hope the Raven draft him or one of the Ryans.
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Did you watch him play last year? He didn't play like he did as a Soph but he definitely did not play like an undrafted player.
I could count on one hand the amount of times i went "well done burfict". Go to any late round ILB prospect, watch their film and they probably played better than Burfict.
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I could count on one hand the amount if times i went "well done burfict". Go to any late round ILB prospect, watch their film and they probably played better than Burfict.
This is just ignorant and absolutely untrue. Even this past season, when his play dropped significantly, he still looks like a 2nd-3rd round guy. It's only after you factor in all the off field stuff, the combine, etc. that he should really begin to drop. His tape is far from unimpressive, even this season.
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This is just ignorant and absolutely untrue. Even this past season, when his play dropped significantly, he still looks like a 2nd-3rd round guy. It's only after you factor in all the off field stuff, the combine, etc. that he should really begin to drop. His tape is far from unimpressive, even this season.
A month ago you were saying he should be going mid first round and the Ravens need to take him at #29, now your saying his play is worthy of round 2 or 3. Which is it?
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I could count on one hand the amount of times i went "well done burfict". Go to any late round ILB prospect, watch their film and they probably played better than Burfict.

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Burfict did not have a good season; even his coaches at Arizona State described his play as average. Towards the end of the season he had a bloated, soft build and wasn't playing fast at all.
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A month ago you were saying he should be going mid first round and the Ravens need to take him at #29, now your saying his play is worthy of round 2 or 3. Which is it?
People are allowed to change their opinions, you know.
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And you know this how?
You know, just because you like the guy as a prospect doesn't mean you have to get defensive with stupid questions. Obviously it's an opinion that I have, one that is shared by others in this thread including the OP. Never claimed to have inside knowledge. Do I really need to put IMO after everything?

Most teams aren't going to consider his "talent" worth the headache. That's my opinion.
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You know, just because you like the guy as a prospect doesn't mean you have to get defensive with stupid questions. Obviously it's an opinion that I have, one that is shared by others in this thread including the OP. Never claimed to have inside knowledge. Do I really need to put IMO after everything?

Most teams aren't going to consider his "talent" worth the headache. That's my opinion.
You have no clue if NFL teams will remove him from their boards. That is speculation stated as fact.
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Haha... It's not a "legitimate prediction" just because you made a thread about it.
This again.

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You have no clue if NFL teams will remove him from their boards. That is speculation stated as fact.
Yep, that's what I said in the thing that you quoted. Glad we're all on the same page.
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Yep, that's what I said in the thing that you quoted. Glad we're all on the same page.
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I wouldn't quite say undrafted, but 6th round to a team like Seattle or Cincinnati seems right to me. Most teams will remove him from their draft board completely.
You said it right there, which is what TACKLE was commenting on.
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You said it right there, which is what TACKLE was commenting on.
Right, and I'm saying it's ridiculous that it I need to put IMO after everything for people to know that it's just my opinion. Obviously nobody here "knows" anything.
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Right, and I'm saying it's ridiculous that it I need to put IMO after everything for people to know that it's just my opinion. Obviously nobody here "knows" anything.
Im with you bro!

Most of these were probably saying "i KNOW Burfict is going to go first round" lol.
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Im with you bro!

Most of these were probably saying "i KNOW Burfict is going to go first round" lol.
A lot of people who are now having to say, "No, he's not dropping all the way out of the draft..." had him going late first in a best-case scenario, third or fourth worst-case scenario. Most players don't have that wide of a projection arc; that's the effect of his character concerns. His poor workouts don't make him a different player, they just eliminate that best-case possibility. If you go back through the threads, I really doubt you're going to find many 'Taze homers.
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A lot of people who are now having to say, "No, he's not dropping all the way out of the draft..." had him going late first in a best-case scenario, third or fourth worst-case scenario. Most players don't have that wide of a projection arc; that's the effect of his character concerns. His poor workouts don't make him a different player, they just eliminate that best-case possibility. If you go back through the threads, I really doubt you're going to find many 'Taze homers.
I've seen a few.
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A month ago you were saying he should be going mid first round and the Ravens need to take him at #29, now your saying his play is worthy of round 2 or 3. Which is it?
Obviously when I said a month ago that the Ravens should draft him at 29, I wasn't expecting a 5.0 40. In fact, I had predicted he'd test through the roof due to the athleticism he's exhibited on tape throughout his entire career at ASU. When you pair a 2nd round grade on tape with perceived high upside, there's nothing wrong with me saying that I expected Burfict to go to the Ravens at 29. In fact, there are many, many mocks who share that exact reasoning.
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Obviously when I said a month ago that the Ravens should draft him at 29, I wasn't expecting a 5.0 40. In fact, I had predicted he'd test through the roof due to the athleticism he's exhibited on tape throughout his entire career at ASU. When you pair a 2nd round grade on tape with perceived high upside, there's nothing wrong with me saying that I expected Burfict to go to the Ravens at 29. In fact, there are many, many mocks who share that exact reasoning.
Lol yeah no one expected that 40 time.

Well i just remember leaving Burfict out my mocks and being abused by Ravens fans saying it was a disgrace and that he was worthy of a much higher selection. But that was purely based on potential?

But then i could say what from his tape led you to believe he had potential but i wont cus i was meant to be asleep an hour and a half ago lol.
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In fact, I had predicted he'd test through the roof due to the athleticism he's exhibited on tape throughout his entire career at ASU.
Also: "athleticism" =/= "speed."

At least not entirely. That is all.
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yeah, the only detractor on Spikes really was his 40 time......but he was so productive and instinctive, such a good leader and a good blitzer who made plays and wasn't as underachieving as Burfict on the field. Burfict's poor combine along with his mediocre junior year, huge red flags about his dirty play on the field, and probable bad interviews are gonna push him way farther down the draft than Spikes fell.
that and him poking eyes
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that and him poking eyes
Didn't he also have x-rated vid on the internet?
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