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Old 04-23-2012, 08:49 AM    (permalink
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Good stuff Jakey!



My wet dream would be to trade up for DeCastro. Mid round picks be damned, I'd rather invest two in DeCastro and have him play alongside Pouncey than use them normally. Him and Pouncey would work so well together, IMO. Both are great at pulling and moving out to the second level.
game changer...takes the offense to another level and makes the tackles look incredible.
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1: Stephen Hill - WR - GT - 6'4" - 215lbs - 4.36
2: Mychal Kendricks - ILB - Cal - 5'11" - 240lbs - 4.46
3: Brandon Brooks - OG - Miami - 6'5" - 345lbs - 5.00
4: Derek Wolfe - DE - Cincinnati - 6'5" - 295lbs - 5.00
5: Lucas Nix - OG - Pitt - 6'5" - 320lbs - 5.40
6: Keith Tandy - CB - 5'10 - 200lbs - 4.51
7: Jerrell Harris - LB - 6'2" - 240lbs - 4.65
7: Toney Clemons - WR - 6'2" - 210lbs - 4.40
7: Blair Walsh - Kicker - Georgia

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jesus that would be amazing lol
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I guess there might be whispers that Worilds could kick inside.
really? no ******* way he would hold up
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jesus that would be amazing lol

really? no ******* way he would hold up
Yeah, I don't like it. I think they should keep Worilds and Carter on the outside, and let Sly man the position this year and see how he does. If he fails, then draft one of the stud LBs next year in the first couple rounds.
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if mike adams is there in the second do you think they take him?

im going with yes
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if mike adams is there in the second do you think they take him?

im going with yes
I would take him there. This is Gery Dulac's mock draft for the first 4 rounds:


1. Alabama ILB Dont'a Hightower; 2. Cinc DE Derek Wolfe; 3. G/C Philip Blake, Baylor; 4. Ark WR Jarius Wright.
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1. Donta Hightower MLB Bama
2. Mike Adams OT Ohio State
3. Mitchell Schwartz OG Cal
4. Josh Chapman NT Alabama
5. Trenton Robinson FS Michigan State
6. Ron Brooks CB LSU
7. Vontaze Burfict MLB Arizona St
7. Jonas Gray RB Notre Dame
7. LaRon Byrd WR Miami
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i dont like it, but today i woke up with the feeling that zeitler will be the pick

okay i dont not like it, its just a very meh pick... i think he will be solid, but i heard a rumbling that he can only play rg... idk, im not that in tune with breaking down and analyzing offensive guards
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i dont like it, but today i woke up with the feeling that zeitler will be the pick

okay i dont not like it, its just a very meh pick... i think he will be solid, but i heard a rumbling that he can only play rg... idk, im not that in tune with breaking down and analyzing offensive guards
one of the things that would make me sad, not furious like martin or worthy...but sad
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Martin is not a first round guy by anyone's projections. FWIW Mark Madden said it's going to be Poe, Hightower or Zeitler. Of all the idiotic things he says he is usually money when it comes to Steeler picks.
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Three mocks based on what the rumors could be for the first selection.

MOCK 1
1. Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
2. Mitchell Schwartz, OT, Cal
3. Tank Carder, ILB, TCU
4. Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
5. Julian Miller, OLB, WVU
6. Ryan Miller, OG, Colorado
7. Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin
7. George Bryan, TE, NC State
7. Matt Conrath, DE, Virginia

MOCK 2
1. Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama
2. Brandon Brooks, OG, Miami (OH)
3. Isaiah Pead, HB, Cincinnati
4. Nick Jean-Baptiste, DT/NT, Baylor
5. Chase Minnifield, CB/KR, Virginia
6. Joe Long, OT, Wayne St.
7. Logan Harrell, DE, Fresno St.
7. Cordarro Law, OLB, Southern Miss
7. Lance Lewis, WR, East Carolina

MOCK 3
1. Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin
2. Alameda Ta'amu, DT/NT, Washington
3. T.Y. Hilton, WR/KR, Florida International
4. James-Michael Johnson, ILB, Nevada
5. Trenton Robinson, FS, Michigan State
6. John Cullen, OT, Utah
7. Cliff Harris, CB/PR, Oregon
7. Nick Provo, TE, Syracuse
7. Chad Diehl, FB, Clemson
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I'm going to hope the reports i been reading are true that Reiff is dropping to the 20's ...if not a surprise

1st... Riley Reiff , OT , Iowa... Surprise/ Lamar Miller, HB, Miami
2nd... Brandon Brooks , OG, Miami Ohio
3rd... Brandon Taylor, SS, LSU ...alt. Brandon Washington, OG, Miami /2nd alt. Tony Bergstrom, OT, Utah
4th ...Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
5th... Keith Tandy, CB, West Virginia
6th... Marcus Dowtin, LB, North Alabama
7A ... Greg Zuerlein , K, Missouri Western State
7B ... Ishamaa'ily Kitchen, NT, Kent State
7C... Edwin Baker, OT, ECU
7D... Neiko Thorpe , FS, Auburn

~~UFA~~
Dominique Davis, QB, ECU
Ryan Van Bergen , DE, Michigan
Dominique Hamilton, DT, Missouri
Ryan Davis, DE/OLB , Beuthan Cookman
Chris Summers , WR, Liberty
Kevin Elliot , WR, FAMU
Tony Clemons, WR, Colorado
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Three mocks based on what the rumors could be for the first selection.

MOCK 1
1. Dontari Poe, DT, Memphis
2. Mitchell Schwartz, OT, Cal
3. Tank Carder, ILB, TCU
4. Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
5. Julian Miller, OLB, WVU
6. Ryan Miller, OG, Colorado
7. Aaron Henry, S, Wisconsin
7. George Bryan, TE, NC State
7. Matt Conrath, DE, Virginia

MOCK 2
1. Dont'a Hightower, ILB, Alabama
2. Brandon Brooks, OG, Miami (OH)
3. Isaiah Pead, HB, Cincinnati
4. Nick Jean-Baptiste, DT/NT, Baylor
5. Chase Minnifield, CB/KR, Virginia
6. Joe Long, OT, Wayne St.
7. Logan Harrell, DE, Fresno St.
7. Cordarro Law, OLB, Southern Miss
7. Lance Lewis, WR, East Carolina

MOCK 3
1. Kevin Zeitler, OG, Wisconsin
2. Alameda Ta'amu, DT/NT, Washington
3. T.Y. Hilton, WR/KR, Florida International
4. James-Michael Johnson, ILB, Nevada
5. Trenton Robinson, FS, Michigan State
6. John Cullen, OT, Utah
7. Cliff Harris, CB/PR, Oregon
7. Nick Provo, TE, Syracuse
7. Chad Diehl, FB, Clemson
I like a few selections in different scenarios in your mock ...and you forgot an extra 7th

1. Kevin Zeitler
2.Mitchell Schwartz
3. Isiah Pead
4.James-Michael Johnson
5.Chase Minifield
6.Joe Long
7. Lance lewis
7. Matt Conrath
7.Chad Diehl
7. Ryan Davis , DE/OLB,
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There is talk of Reiff possibly sliding down into the mid 20s now. I'd strongly consider him at 24 if this does happen (I don't think it will). Put him at RT and slide Colon inside.

1. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
2. Amini Silatolu, OG, Midwestern State
3. Isaiah Pead, HB, Cincinnati
4. Nigel Bradham, ILB, Florida State
5. Akiem Hicks, DT, Regina
6. Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
7. Hebron Fangupo, DT, BYU
7. Dominque Davis, QB, East Carolina
7. Jerrell Young, FS, South Florida
7. George Bryan, TE, N.C. State
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1. Donta Hightower MLB Bama
2. Mike Adams OT Ohio State
3. Mitchell Schwartz OG Cal
4. Josh Chapman NT Alabama
5. Trenton Robinson FS Michigan State
6. Ron Brooks CB LSU
7. Vontaze Burfict MLB Arizona St
7. Jonas Gray RB Notre Dame
7. LaRon Byrd WR Miami
Not sure about Schwartz being available in the 3rd but other than that this mock looks great. I'd be thrilled with it actually. Definitely worth taking a flyer on Burfict in the 7th as well. If any team could turn him around, it could be Pittsburgh.

Walter Football Mock
1.Dont’a Hightower, ILB, Alabama
2.Bob Massie, OT, Ole Miss
3.Bernard Pierce, HB, Temple
4.Hebron Fangupo, DT, BYU
5.Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
6.Lucas Nix, OG, Pittsburgh
7.Jerrell Harris, ILB, Alabama
7b. Kelvin Beachum, OG, SMU
7c. Jeremy Jones, CB, Wayne State
7d. John Hughes, DE/DT, Cincinnati

Charlie Campbell Mock (Walterfootball)
1.Dont’a Hightower, ILB, Alabama
2.Amini Silatolu, G/T, Midwestern State
3.LaMichael James, HB, Oregon
4.David Paulson, TE, Oregon
5.Akeem Hicks, DE/DT, Regina
6.Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
7.Hebron Fangupo, DT, BYU
7b. Keshawn Martin, WR, Michigan State
7c. John Hughes DE/DT, Cincinnati
7d. Case Keenum, QB, Houston



These were just posted this morning at walter football. Thoughts?

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There is talk of Reiff possibly sliding down into the mid 20s now. I'd strongly consider him at 24 if this does happen (I don't think it will). Put him at RT and slide Colon inside.

1. Riley Reiff, OT, Iowa
2. Amini Silatolu, OG, Midwestern State
3. Isaiah Pead, HB, Cincinnati
4. Nigel Bradham, ILB, Florida State
5. Akiem Hicks, DT, Regina
6. Greg Childs, WR, Arkansas
7. Hebron Fangupo, DT, BYU
7. Dominque Davis, QB, East Carolina
7. Jerrell Young, FS, South Florida
7. George Bryan, TE, N.C. State
I would be beyond ecstatic with this draft.

However I don't believe the rumors that Reiff slides to mid-20s. Also I think Silatolu is the pick for the 9ers in the first if Fleener is gone. Heard Pead could be the Bucs pick in rd 3 is they don't get Trent Richardson. I would honestly be surprised to see Pead available in rd 3 even if he's not picked up by Schiano. Absolutely love Bradham and Hicks in the 4th and 5th rd.
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What are your guys final thoughts on Coby Fleener?

At first I was very hesitant thinking he was a product of being the best option for Luck. After seeing some more of his play and checking out the numbers from his pro day though, I really like this guy. 6'5", 241 with a 38" vertical, running 4.51 and 27 reps on the bench. The guy produced on the field too (difference between him and Poe). I think you could line him up in the redzone (where we had a lot of trouble last year) out wide and throw him jump balls much like the saints do with Jimmy Graham. Not to mention the fact that we're simply not going to be able to keep Antonio Brown and Mike Wallace together beyond this season. My attitude has completely changed on this guy and I am now all about him in the first round.

I am not saying he's Jimmy Graham, just he could be used like him. I really think he is somewhere between Todd Heap (in his early years) and Jimmy Graham.

Also he cut the mullet, which definitely helps lol
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coby > any receiving option for us at 24
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The only way we get Childs is if we take him in the 3rd. He's not going late after his Pro Day. He seems healthy now.
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warming up to the idea of taking a olb in round one...

idk if anyone follows steelersdept on twitter, but he beat me to it... regardless it kind of makes sense as there will probably be theb est value there at 24, and there are a lot of good ones available

enough trying to get lucky in late rounds, lets get a stud and let him learn for a year / come in when woodley / harrison get hurt or have him rush the passer on 3rd down right away
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Yeah I wouldn't mind Nick Perry at 24 either.
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I honestly have a bad feeling about this first pick

1) Kevin Zeitler G Wisconsin

Well i should be hammered by pick 24, and thats probably a good thing because i do not like this pick at all, it doesnt make me permanently hate zeitler, a fate suffered by much of the 09 draft class but it will make me sad. I do not think theres value here for a guard of zeitlers caliber. I actually think this is taking him a full round too early, but that being said going into the 2012 season with doug legursky as the starting LG again just makes my stomach churn. I think zeitler will be a fine player, but im not sold on him being anything more than a middle of the pack guard (unfortunately middle of the pack is a huge upgrade for us)

Dream Pick: David Decastro
Possible better picks: Cordy Glenn, Dontari Poe
Picks i wouldnt mind: Donta Hightower, Mark Barron, stephen hill, Coby Fleener, Nick Perry, Bobby Massie
Picks i hate: Jonathan Marin, Jerel Worthy

2) Mike Adams OT Ohio State

Heres something that would excite me. OMG HE FAILED A DRUG TEST?!?! I dont care, and in the second round i dont think the steelers will either. Weed simply is not a deal breaker in the NFL anymore. Had the league took the hard stance on marijuana the league would have had to shut down. Adams is a smart kid, like actually intelligent. It wasnt the best choice for him to smoke prior to the combine but the steelers have had several meetings at the combine, OSU pro day, and personal visit/workout. Im can imagine theyd be too deterred from the report of a failed test...if they like him, they probably still do. He has elite size and he had a pretty great season. Could play on the left or the right side, but definitely looks the part of a LT. He had some great senior bowl practices and looked good in the drills at the combine (not the best triangle numbers, but 6-8 guys arent bench pressers). Santonio Holmes (i still miss him) was a dick and a bad team mate, but the steelers definitely got a return on investment with him in that they got the best out of him before they moved him. Adams could very well fall to the bottom of the second, but i think it would be difficult for the steelers to pass on such a intriguing specimen here.

He may not fall this far, but im predicting a bit of a slide.

Other possible picks: Amini Silatolu, Mychal Kendricks, Brandon Brooks, Alemeda Taamu, Mohamed Sanu, Ashlon Jeffrey

3) Isaiah Pead RB Cincy

If pead is here i fully expect him to the pick. I really do like Pead and i like that hes not getting too much attention because he is probably capable of coming in and being a day one contributor. The steelers situation at RB is abysmal....i like dwyer but who knows with him, and then we have clay and redman who are about as fast as guards, and we have batch who is a 3rd down back whos never had a real action NFL carry. Pead spells the end of mendenhall, hes not as good but hes has some great tools to work with and his decisive running style and his vision reminds me of lesean mccoy.

Other possiblities: Brandon Washington, Bobby Wagner, Brandon Boykin, Mitchell Schwartz, Greg Childs, Jared Crick

4) Josh Chapman NT Alabama

Solid, tough player that did all the dirty work for that elite alabama defense. Played all year on a bum knee and has some teams concerned medically, but in round 4 hes worth this pick. Hes very stout, very disciplined, and wins battles in the trenches. Hes powerful and isnt really only a two down player imo, he has some pocket collapsing ability. Would be a tremendous replacement for hampton

other picks: Hebron Fangupu, TY Hilton, Joe Adams

5) Chase Minnifield

Excellent zone corner prospect, could also get some action at FS. Had microfracture surgery but imo was better than chris cook and ras-i dowling. Very natural cover skills, return ability, and top notch ball skills. Makes big plays both as a CB and as a return man. Falls a bit because of a somewhat deep corner class and his injury concerns, but we dont need an immediate contributor at CB....realistically i like him as Keenan Lewis's replacement

6) Devier Posey WR Ohio State

Im actually surprised hes not a higher ranked WR, but thats what suspensions and inconsistency will do to you. WR is a need here, i think he could come in and be an insurance policy against losing wallace or having him not care or play. Worht a late round flyer, was a top recruit and showed some flashes at Ohio State during his limited time there

7) Vontaze Burfict

Breaks my heart to see this historically bad plummet down draft boards....steelers could definitely harness his talent though, hes on field crazy and needs work and needs to be in better shape but he showed TONS of potential two years ago, he had a down year....id like to think hes not willing to fall off the face of the football world, hes too talented to just let sit there. This is a strategy to get him away from the ravens...agree or not, they are going to be interested in bring in the guy who was supposed to be the next ray lewis to learn from ray lewis.

7) Chad Deihl

Hes a big disciplined blocking FB that doesn miss assignments and destroys the hole. Haley does like the FB, he went after leron Mcclain when he was in KC so maybe bringing in a true FB is more likely now than it has been over the last 5 years.

7) Greg Zuerlein K Missouri western state

Im mocking a kicker here every year until we find one. Bring him in to compete...its worth it
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a last min. mock

2 reg. and 1 with a trade for Wallace.

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1)Kevin Zeithler-OL
2)Alameda Ta`amu-NT
3)Chase Minnifield-CB
4)Isaiah Pead-RB
5)Nigel Bradham-LB
6)Brandon Washington-OL
7)Lucus Nix-OL
7)Vontaze Burfict-LB
7)Brandon Hardin-S
7)Marcus Dowtin-LB

or

1)Nick Perry-LB
2)Brandon Books-OL
3)Chase Minnifield-CB
4)Josh Chapman-NT
5)Nigel Bradham-LB
6)Brandon Washington-OL
7)Lucus Nix-OL
7)Vontaze Burfict-LB
7)Brandon Hardin-S
7)Marcus Dowtin-LB


W/Trade for (2) 2nd rd and a 3rd rd with St.L
1)Stephen Hill-WR
2)Doug Martain-RB
2)Shea McClellin-LB *
2)Brandon Books-OL
3)Joe Looney-OL
3)Chase Minnifield-CB
4)Josh Chapman-NT
5)same-LB
6)Mike Daniels-DE
7)same-OL
7)same-LB
7)same-S
7)same-LB

*if not (2) 2nd rd picks then take McClellin off

i really like Perry but i think they will go in a different direction, i also like Hightower and Upshaw but Hightowers weight does worry me and upshaw will be gone, but i do think they prob will address the line after the last couple of years or go WR if they trade Wallace.
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yea, i plan on being schwasted by pick 24 as well. which will probably be a good thing.

is it bad that i want chapman or martin more in rounds 3/4 than say a zeitler in round 1?
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