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Old 03-02-2012, 07:24 PM    (permalink
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I thought it was weird, even tho his contract was up and is good friends with Fisher, that he just right away came from one of the best teams in the NFC to the worst. Maybe he knew **** was about to hit the fan and he tried to Pete Carroll himself out of punishment.
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Maybe he should have ran off to the NCAA.
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Maybe he should have ran off to the NCAA.
Well some would argue the Rams are an NCAA team....too mean on my own????
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Poor Spags. :(
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My guess on punishment is:
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Williams gets a 6 game suspension (probably more with the WAS stuff)


At the very least this violates the salary cap system.
Considering he did in Washington as well, I could see Williams being suspended for the year.

I wonder if Washington will be penalized as well?
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Poor Spags. :(


Hopefully he leaves NO after this year and replaces Fewell when he becomes a HC
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They shouldn't suspend Williams because it's not the Rams fault. Fine him, don't suspend him.
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At the very least this violates the salary cap system.
I'm thinking this might be the real issue here. The motivation of the bonuses is motivation for the league to come down harder, but it's likely a lot of teams tell their defenders to hit hard enough to knock out players from the game. In fact I've heard this confirmed with regularity over the years. Players have said they don't target knees or whatever, but when they can hit hard, they go in hoping to knock that guy out of the game within the rules. This to me is simply NFL football.

Paying bonuses for particular achievements of this nature though would possibly suggest a payment system not accounted for officially. Such activity would bring the wrath of Goodell down on a franchise.

Perhaps there is language in the NFL allowing for reasonably small bonuses though. I know teams can fine at will.
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*Bill Belichick caught them on tape joke*
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Plenty of guys have already come out and said that this has been going on in most locker rooms for a long time.

This is only news to us fans. The Saints are in trouble because they got caught, that's all.

This was just bad timing, bc the league is going to come down hard on them bc this hurts their "agenda"
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Plenty of guys have already come out and said that this has been going on in most locker rooms for a long time.

This is only news to us fans. The Saints are in trouble because they got caught, that's all.

This was just bad timing, bc the league is going to come down hard on them bc this hurts their "agenda"
It shouldn't be news to use fans. If they watched the 30 for 30 Miami Hurricane documentary they would know it's going on. Also Shawn Merriman said he had a bounty on him awhile that's how he got hurt supposedly. Buddy Ryan did it with the bears and eagles.
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Take away this year's franchise tag and watch the commotion. I saw this idea on Twitter.
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Take away this year's franchise tag and watch the commotion. I saw this idea on Twitter.
Please let this happen.
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Wow. Amazing. Sucks for NO but I'd love to see it happen.
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It shouldn't be news to use fans. If they watched the 30 for 30 Miami Hurricane documentary they would know it's going on. Also Shawn Merriman said he had a bounty on him awhile that's how he got hurt supposedly. Buddy Ryan did it with the bears and eagles.
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Tony Dungy of NBC’s Football Night in America tells PFT that he believes the Titans had put a bounty on Manning.

“I know they had them in Tennessee,” Dungy said via text.
I wonder if Jeffery Fisher will get in trouble. He had to know.
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I wonder what Stevie Johnson got paid by Chan Gailey for taking out Eric Berry after Gailey got fired by Todd Haley.
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I wonder what Stevie Johnson got paid by Chan Gailey for taking out Eric Berry after Gailey got fired by Todd Haley.
we'll find out when he signs that new contract
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Yeah, this is just too far over the line for me to accept. I remember there was talk of the Packers setting a bounty for keeping Adrian Peterson under a 100 yards. It might have been the Packers, I can't remember. That is much more acceptable to me though. This situation was just way out of hand and I don't have any problem with the league cracking down hard on it.
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I wish the worst on the Saints and that entire organization. Yes, I am still butthurt over the NFCCG, and this only justifies it.
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The Saints were once and used to always be a respectable franchise until now. Paying players incentives to injure and hurt other players?

As a Buc fan, I still had respect and wished the Saints well whenever Tampa was not playing them or out of contention. However, now that I read this I'm not surprised. There were a lot of times I questioned the style of play of certain players, especially Roman Harper, and Jon Vilma. They seemed very dirty with there play.

I wish the worst for this Franchise and hope Goodell comes hard on them. Take away there 2nd rounder this year and 1st rounder in 2013, as a minimum punishment. Another one I'd like to see is take away there Franchise Tag option this year, but that's just being greedy as a Buc fan to see them fall : )
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