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Old 04-01-2012, 05:30 PM    (permalink
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I see Tamba Hali in him. He's an all out non-stop motor kinda guy who can play on the DL or as a LB. Tamba has developed to a very solid run stopper too. I was just watching tape on both and I see it more and more every time.

Tamba is a jack of all trades since he's so versatile. He can play OLB on 1st and 2nd down then move to DE on 3rd down in certain situations.

Maybe it's just me, but I see them being extremely similar.
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Ingram has a similar bodytype to Woodley, but yeah Hali is a good comparison too.
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Adalius Thomas.
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Most versatile player I've ever seen. He lined up from DT to CB & S during his time. Not a superstar at any one spot but the flexibility he gave a defense was crazy, perfect with Rex Ryan.
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I am sticking with my Robert Ayers comparisons, but those above aren't bad either.
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woodley or brandon graham would be sufficient comparisions. i think he is is strictly a 3-4 player at the next level
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I don't think he's quite a woodley or tamba hali when they were coming out, but I think the Hali is a good one as a current player. Hali has really evolved since being drafted

If Ingram can learn to round the corner he's got a great chance in a 4-3, I just never saw that from him in college.
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I am sticking with my Robert Ayers comparisons, but those above aren't bad either.
So Ayers and Ingram compare to each other, yet Ayers is a foot and a half taller, and Ingram has phenomenal quickness compared to Ayers average quickness?

That makes A LOT of sense...
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I've heard a lot about Ingram going to the Jets. I heard their interest in Courtney Upshaw isn't that great. They are looking to get faster and more explosive on defense; Ingram fits that bill perfectly. Upshaw is stiff and has below average lateral agility.
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That makes A LOT of sense...
Ayers is 7'7" now?
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Lol, and he gave Scott a facepalm? EPIC FAIL.
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Adalius Thomas.
I see this too. Very versatile and dynamic, but I don't know if he will be elite at getting to the QB. He will be an awesome player for someone and he will be an impact defender but I don't know if he is that type of dominant pass rusher that warrants where he will probably be drafted.
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Yeah... but it's his site. And it's a privilege, so watch your mouth and show some respect. Either way, you lose.
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He's a short, fat DE with amazing athleticism but no explosion. I have absolutely no idea who he favorably compares to, and therefore I'm not willing to spend a first rounder on him.
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I'm starting to think Adalius Thomas might be the most accurate comparison for Ingram, as I see Ingram seeing time at ILB in a 3-4 defense. Ingram might be a great fit in New York at 16 for Rex Ryan, as he's been rumored to be working out Ingram along other pass rushers. Thomas excelled while in Baltimore(few seasons with Ryan as DC), and Ingram can play in a similar role.

Ingram could also fit on a team like Arizona at 13, maybe a playoff team trades up for a impact pass rusher(New England?).
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I'm starting to think Adalius Thomas might be the most accurate comparison for Ingram, as I see Ingram seeing time at ILB in a 3-4 defense. Ingram might be a great fit in New York at 16 for Rex Ryan, as he's been rumored to be working out Ingram along other pass rushers. Thomas excelled while in Baltimore(few seasons with Ryan as DC), and Ingram can play in a similar role.

Ingram could also fit on a team like Arizona at 13, maybe a playoff team trades up for a impact pass rusher(New England?).
God i hope so, so the Chargers wont even have a chance to screw it up by picking him. He will generate no pass rush in the NFL AT ALL...
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No explosion? The guy ran the 6th fastest 20-yard shuttle amongst all DE's and LB's.

If you doubt his lower body strength and explosion, then just watch this:
http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=7728889

This guy is a ridiculous athlete. I'm not a huge fan of Ingram's, but his explosiveness is his best attribute. I think he will at least be a quality back-up, like a Jason Worilds. Other than height and forty (Clay is about an inch and a half taller and runs the forty .1 faster), they do have the exact same 20-yard shuttle, and similar verticals and 3-cone.

Don't have an exact comparison for him. All I know is he isn't making it past the Jets. ..
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No explosion? The guy ran the 6th fastest 20-yard shuttle amongst all DE's and LB's.

If you doubt his lower body strength and explosion, then just watch this:
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This guy is a ridiculous athlete. I'm not a huge fan of Ingram's, but his explosiveness is his best attribute. I think he will at least be a quality back-up, like a Jason Worilds. Other than height and forty (Clay is about an inch and a half taller and runs the forty .1 faster), they do have the exact same 20-yard shuttle, and similar verticals and 3-cone.

Don't have an exact comparison for him. All I know is he isn't making it past the Jets. ..
I'm assuming that's the video of him doing a backflip or something. Which I've seen, and it just further confused the hell out of me. I've watched plenty of him and I don't think he gets of the snap quickly enough.

If I had to guess, I'd say he's a 3-4 OLB and that his downside is probably a more athletic Jarrett Johnson I guess; i.e. a 3-4 backer that can set the edge and play in space. I'm still not sure what to make of him though. He'll do some jaw dropping things on tape, but I don't know if he's an NFL pass rusher..
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That wasn't even a typo because you spelled the whole thing out! Even your defense is embarrassing. TOTAL EPIC FAIL.

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I'll go with the other Steeler OLB James Harrison
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Anthony Spencer, Lamarr Woodley, Chris Long?


I feel he is more athletic than Ayers, even numbers wise.
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I am sticking with my Robert Ayers comparisons, but those above aren't bad either.
Robert Ayers is 6'3, 270 and he is awful as a pass rusher. Ayers: 9 sacks in 4 seasons at Tennessee. Ingram: 21 sacks.
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