Weeden in 1st Round? - Page 10

fear the elf · 04-20-2012, 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by onejayhawk

You do it if you think Weeden can develop into a starter, but Cousins cant.

Weeden is worthy of first round consideration because he has some OK attributes and could maybe become a starter but Cousins just flat out can't?

Care to defend that statement? Compare them as prospects perhaps?

Asteinebach · 04-20-2012, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by fear the elf

Weeden is worthy of first round consideration because he has some OK attributes and could maybe become a starter but Cousins just flat out can't?

Care to defend that statement? Compare them as prospects perhaps?

I'm fairly sure he was speaking hypothetically. But it'd be interesting to see someone compare the two.

eaglesalltheway · 04-20-2012, 10:22 AM

This thread is so much fail. Quit feeding the trolls.

Regards,

E

onejayhawk · 04-20-2012, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by fear the elf

Weeden is worthy of first round consideration because he has some OK attributes and could maybe become a starter but Cousins just flat out can't?

Care to defend that statement? Compare them as prospects perhaps?

Reread what I said, and then compare to your statement. The two are not the same. I was making a hypothetical case.

J

YAYareaRB · 04-26-2012, 10:42 PM

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Bulldogs · 04-26-2012, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by fear the elf

Weeden is worthy of first round consideration because he has some OK attributes and could maybe become a starter but Cousins just flat out can't?

Care to defend that statement? Compare them as prospects perhaps?

I can't wait to laugh at Browns fans for the next five years (until Weeden hits old age and retires).

Raiderz4Life · 04-26-2012, 10:50 PM

HAHA this is so bad....makes the Raiders taking rusty knob not seem as bad. He's kinda proven and only 3yrs older.

twiz · 04-27-2012, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulldogs

I can't wait to laugh at Browns fans for the next five years (until Weeden hits old age and retires).

I don't think there was a single Browns fan who wanted this.

Leon Sandcastle · 04-27-2012, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Bulldogs

I can't wait to laugh at Browns fans for the next five years (until Weeden hits old age and retires).

Haven't they suffered enough you sadist! People who rag on Cleveland are inhumane.

ZuKe · 04-27-2012, 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Wide Right

Haven't they suffered enough you sadist! People who rag on Cleveland are inhumane.

thanks

it is always fun being a browns fan

descendency · 04-27-2012, 02:24 AM

I feel bad for Browns fans. They just went from a no upside backup QB to a declining value (age, injuries) prospect. Mike Holmgren = very over-rated.

YAYareaRB · 04-27-2012, 03:50 AM

i was skeptical at first but im gonna wait and see what comes of this. its not like mccoy or weeden will ever be the stars or focal points since trent is there.

Asteinebach · 04-27-2012, 04:22 AM

I think the outrage would've been lesser had they taken Cousins.

fear the elf · 04-27-2012, 06:07 AM

I'm so disappointed...I instantly went from 100% faith in Tom Heckert to 0%.

For the first time in 5+ years, I turned the draft off. I didn't watch anything after I heard Goodell announce his name, and I don't think I can bring myself to watch the next two days either.

I'm more embarrassed and hopeless as a Browns fan than I've ever been. What a rough night...

Grizzlegom · 04-27-2012, 06:11 AM

Apparently they are looking to trade Colt this weekend now.

FUNBUNCHER · 04-27-2012, 06:35 AM

There's a precedence for NFL QBs who become starters at a more advanced age playing until at least 35.

Steve Young/Rich Gannon/Roger Staubach/Kurt Warner/Jeff Garcia I believe all became starters at age 28 or later and played at least 8 years.

If Weeden becomes the Browns starter by week 8, if not earlier, I think it's foolish to believe his career will be over at age 34.

If Weeden gives the Browns a better chance to win games in 2012 than Colt McCoy, I don't have a problem with the pick. And it doesn't mean they can't still target QBs in the future. There are plays in the passing game that Weeden can make right now that Colt physically cannot.

I don't get how this was a terrible pick other than you don't think he's that talented.

WCH · 04-27-2012, 06:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Grizzlegom

Apparently they are looking to trade Colt this weekend now.

I just heard that on Mike and Mike.

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER

I don't get how this was a terrible pick other than you don't think he's that talented.

I'm still very firmly in the "he's not that talented" camp.

njx9 · 04-27-2012, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by FUNBUNCHER

There's a precedence for NFL QBs who become starters at a more advanced age playing until at least 35.

Steve Young/Rich Gannon/Roger Staubach/Kurt Warner/Jeff Garcia I believe all became starters at age 28 or later and played at least 8 years.

which of those guys had serious shoulder issues *before* they ever played an nfl snap?

to the rest, yes, i also don't think he's that talented. do you really think he's as good as steve young or roger staubach?

SolidGold · 04-27-2012, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Grizzlegom

Apparently they are looking to trade Colt this weekend now.

I would give up a 5th rounder for McCoy in a second. He may not be starting material but he can have a long career as a number 2 guy/spot starter. He brings toughness/great work ethic to the table.

Steve Young/Gannon spent time in the NFL prior to becoming successful taking their lumps. They weren't 28 when they entered the league. Garcia had experience in the CFL prior to coming over to coming into the league. Warner had experience in arena football/NFL Europe. They were all playing football from college through their 20s until they got a shot at starting.

onejayhawk · 04-27-2012, 07:01 AM

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Originally Posted by raiderz4life

HAHA this is so bad....makes the Raiders taking rusty knob not seem as bad. He's kinda proven and only 3yrs older.

4 years--1979-1983

Plus the hits.

If Weeden can be a good start for 3 years, he is worth this price. If he is at any time Pro Bowl worthy, this is a steal.

J

Halsey · 04-27-2012, 07:33 AM

Now we see why the Browns have been passing on QBs in recent years. They've been waiting on a flawless prospect like Weeden to fall into their laps! So much for having to take risks on a QB!

Abaddon · 04-27-2012, 08:07 AM

What an absolute joke...

Abaddon · 04-27-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by onejayhawk

If Weeden can be a good start for 3 years, he is worth this price. If he is at any time Pro Bowl worthy, this is a steal.

J

lolwut?

Halsey · 04-27-2012, 08:16 AM

Using the 22nd pick on a QB is not a major risk. If Weeden sucks, the Browns can try again in two years. Besides, they have like 27 picks remaining in the 2012 Draft for addressing other needs.

Asteinebach · 04-27-2012, 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Halsey

Using the 22nd pick on a QB is not a major risk. If Weeden sucks, the Browns can try again in two years. Besides, they have like 27 picks remaining in the 2012 Draft for addressing other needs.

Yeah, I don't think anyone is questioning the level of risk involved. I think it was just a bonehead pick when there might have been younger, better QB's on the board in the 2nd round. They might have even had a shot at Weeden in round 2.