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Old 04-26-2012, 10:42 PM    (permalink
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Weeden is worthy of first round consideration because he has some OK attributes and could maybe become a starter but Cousins just flat out can't?

Care to defend that statement? Compare them as prospects perhaps?
I can't wait to laugh at Browns fans for the next five years (until Weeden hits old age and retires).
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HAHA this is so bad....makes the Raiders taking rusty knob not seem as bad. He's kinda proven and only 3yrs older.
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I can't wait to laugh at Browns fans for the next five years (until Weeden hits old age and retires).
I don't think there was a single Browns fan who wanted this.
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Old 04-27-2012, 12:50 AM    (permalink
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I can't wait to laugh at Browns fans for the next five years (until Weeden hits old age and retires).
Haven't they suffered enough you sadist! People who rag on Cleveland are inhumane.
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Haven't they suffered enough you sadist! People who rag on Cleveland are inhumane.
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Old 04-27-2012, 02:24 AM    (permalink
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I feel bad for Browns fans. They just went from a no upside backup QB to a declining value (age, injuries) prospect. Mike Holmgren = very over-rated.
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Old 04-27-2012, 03:50 AM    (permalink
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i was skeptical at first but im gonna wait and see what comes of this. its not like mccoy or weeden will ever be the stars or focal points since trent is there.
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Old 04-27-2012, 04:22 AM    (permalink
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I think the outrage would've been lesser had they taken Cousins.
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Old 04-27-2012, 06:07 AM    (permalink
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I'm so disappointed...I instantly went from 100% faith in Tom Heckert to 0%.

For the first time in 5+ years, I turned the draft off. I didn't watch anything after I heard Goodell announce his name, and I don't think I can bring myself to watch the next two days either.

I'm more embarrassed and hopeless as a Browns fan than I've ever been. What a rough night...
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Old 04-27-2012, 06:11 AM    (permalink
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Apparently they are looking to trade Colt this weekend now.
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Old 04-27-2012, 06:35 AM    (permalink
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There's a precedence for NFL QBs who become starters at a more advanced age playing until at least 35.

Steve Young/Rich Gannon/Roger Staubach/Kurt Warner/Jeff Garcia I believe all became starters at age 28 or later and played at least 8 years.

If Weeden becomes the Browns starter by week 8, if not earlier, I think it's foolish to believe his career will be over at age 34.

If Weeden gives the Browns a better chance to win games in 2012 than Colt McCoy, I don't have a problem with the pick. And it doesn't mean they can't still target QBs in the future. There are plays in the passing game that Weeden can make right now that Colt physically cannot.

I don't get how this was a terrible pick other than you don't think he's that talented.
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Apparently they are looking to trade Colt this weekend now.
I just heard that on Mike and Mike.

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I don't get how this was a terrible pick other than you don't think he's that talented.
I'm still very firmly in the "he's not that talented" camp.
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Old 04-27-2012, 06:43 AM    (permalink
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Apparently they are looking to trade Colt this weekend now.
I would give up a 5th rounder for McCoy in a second. He may not be starting material but he can have a long career as a number 2 guy/spot starter. He brings toughness/great work ethic to the table.

Steve Young/Gannon spent time in the NFL prior to becoming successful taking their lumps. They weren't 28 when they entered the league. Garcia had experience in the CFL prior to coming over to coming into the league. Warner had experience in arena football/NFL Europe. They were all playing football from college through their 20s until they got a shot at starting.

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HAHA this is so bad....makes the Raiders taking rusty knob not seem as bad. He's kinda proven and only 3yrs older.
4 years--1979-1983

Plus the hits.

If Weeden can be a good start for 3 years, he is worth this price. If he is at any time Pro Bowl worthy, this is a steal.

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Now we see why the Browns have been passing on QBs in recent years. They've been waiting on a flawless prospect like Weeden to fall into their laps! So much for having to take risks on a QB!
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What an absolute joke...
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Using the 22nd pick on a QB is not a major risk. If Weeden sucks, the Browns can try again in two years. Besides, they have like 27 picks remaining in the 2012 Draft for addressing other needs.
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Using the 22nd pick on a QB is not a major risk. If Weeden sucks, the Browns can try again in two years. Besides, they have like 27 picks remaining in the 2012 Draft for addressing other needs.
Yeah, I don't think anyone is questioning the level of risk involved. I think it was just a bonehead pick when there might have been younger, better QB's on the board in the 2nd round. They might have even had a shot at Weeden in round 2.
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lolwut?

That is so wrong. You have no concept of the value of even an adequate starting QB. You may be sure that Cleveland did not expect Weeden to last til #37.

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Younger yes. Better, no. The ONLY younger QB that might be better is short of 5'11".

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I think the outrage would've been lesser had they taken Cousins.
I'd have given it an A+++.
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i love when people say "the browns have so many holes to fill lolol why wud u take weeden"

colt mccoy is the biggest hole in the nfl
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i love when people say "the browns have so many holes to fill lolol why wud u take weeden"

colt mccoy is the biggest hole in the nfl
Because Weeden turns 29 in the middle of his rookie season. I can't see how anybody justifies taking somebody this old in the 1st round. I mean he's not an elite talent.
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Because Weeden turns 29 in the middle of his rookie season. I can't see how anybody justifies taking somebody this old in the 1st round. I mean he's not an elite talent.
what does any of this have to do with me saying colt mccoy is the biggest hole in the NFL?
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