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Old 04-15-2012, 07:56 PM    (permalink
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Arizona State linebacker Vontaze Burfict hasn't been invited for a visit with any NFL teams, his agent, Charles Price, told The Daily on Sunday.

In September of last year, USC defensive coordinator Monte Kiffin described Burfict as "unbelievable."

"He's going to be playing on Sundays, there isn't any doubt about that," said Kiffin, who was the Tampa Bay Buccaneers' defensive coordinator from 1996 to 2008 and spent 13 years on other NFL staffs.

But after collecting 17 personal fouls in three seasons with the Sun Devils, and a poor performance at February's NFL Scouting Combine, Burfict's alleged attitude problems on and off the field have dropped him to becoming potentially undrafted.

"I'm not a fan at all," NFL Network analyst Mike Mayock said after Burfict's combine performance.

At the combine, Burfict posted the worst 40-yard dash time (5.09 seconds) and also recorded the worst broad jump of any linebacker in attendance. He did, however, improve his 40 time to 4.80 seconds at his pro day in Arizona in March. Burfict also did 16 reps of 225 pounds on the bench press.
I remember when people jumped me months ago for saying he was more of a 3rd rounder than a 1st, Ravens fans were the worse.

I still love his intensity, and think as a 3-4 ILB in the late rounds he's worth a shot
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They're keeping it on the down low. He's about to be a top 10 pick.
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All-time fall from Frosh to draft without injury.
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It's a shame he didn't go to a legit program with actual coaching and such. From the moment he committed to ASU he was the entire team and all anyone could talk about. Met him once doesn't drink or smoke but had a giant entourage and didn't talk to anyone
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It's a shame he didn't go to a legit program with actual coaching and such. From the moment he committed to ASU he was the entire team and all anyone could talk about. Met him once doesn't drink or smoke but had a giant entourage and didn't talk to anyone
It's a shame he's a moron with zero character.

Compare and contrast to Trent Richardson.
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He won't be drafted. He'll have to learn the meaning of hard work to make it in the NFL.
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Mid to late 7th round if he is taken at all. Teams just don't draft guys like this.
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There's more Vontaze Burfict threads in here than any non elite prospect.
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5 th rounder to Arizona :D
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It's to the point now where I feel bad for the kid. I don't even know if going to a strong locker room will do him any good. Such a shame.
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You know you're dealing with someone insufferable when their college coordinator describes them as "all hype." Has that ever happened before?
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I just see the Ravens taking him...even if it be in the last round or so. Get this kid in a locker room with Ray Lewis and let him mature. If he doesnt? cut him loose, but in the end if it works out they will look like geniuses. The kid has ability and he has the tenacity, but he lacks a little bit upstairs and seems like he may be a little lazy. Ray wouldnt let him get away with that, I think he would cherish the job of helping groom him.
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I just see the Ravens taking him...even if it be in the last round or so. Get this kid in a locker room with Ray Lewis and let him mature. If he doesnt? cut him loose, but in the end if it works out they will look like geniuses. The kid has ability and he has the tenacity, but he lacks a little bit upstairs and seems like he may be a little lazy. Ray wouldnt let him get away with that, I think he would cherish the job of helping groom him.
I don't know, he's pretty terrible all around. Slow, misses tackles, can't shed blocks, not desciplined at all.
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I don't know, he's pretty terrible all around. Slow, misses tackles, can't shed blocks, not desciplined at all.
Yeah, but if he's going to make it, IMO, his best bet is Baltimore. 7th rounders don't exactly pan out all that frequently so it wouldn't be a risk for the Ravens to take him. I think its a good fit for him
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I just like ragging on the dude because I've thought he's sucked for a long time when a lot of people still bought the hype. I remember a few of us were ripping him back early on this past season. Gatorguy and schizo batman I believe were also vocal about it.
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What makes anyone think Ray Lewis wants to spend a bunch of time focusing on a guy who cant do the basic things hes supposed to in order to succeed playing football? Hes got enough on his plate, he can only do so much and probably would only want to do so much.

Also, why would the Ravens burn a draft pick on him when it would be more use to just get him as an undrafted free agent? Use the draft pick on somebody who isnt crazier than Charles Manson eating fruit loops on the front porch.
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Ourlads ranks him as the 16th best ILB in the draft, and a 7th Rounder or a Priority Free Agent. They didn't say much positive about him, but my favorite part was:

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Yeah...that's not all, either. They slammed him.
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overrated player to steal of the draft amazing... kinda like marvin austin
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He really could be a huge steal if a coach can get him to buy in
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I've just gotta say, I think it's flat out ridiculous how some of you are acting. I get it, and I'm on board with the 5th or later grade, but to say he is a bad football player and has no worth is flat out stupid. Watch a single game and you'll see a football player.

I get that he's the flavor of the month to pile on, but jesus.
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I've just gotta say, I think it's flat out ridiculous how some of you are acting. I get it, and I'm on board with the 5th or later grade, but to say he is a bad football player and has no worth is flat out stupid. Watch a single game and you'll see a football player.

I get that he's the flavor of the month to pile on, but jesus.
He's exactly the type of player that the good-drafting teams don't hesitate to take on the last day of the draft.
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The thing everyone's missing with Burfict is that if he's even a 7th round pick that has to fight to make a roster, he won't be the same player. He was ASU's everything and played like his head was on fire because of it. Once he's a 4th ILB in camp he's not going to work hard to get better, and he may even abandon his usual relentlessness since he's already be starting way below the curve



Basically it's going to take a lot of hard work for him to ever get anywhere; if he maintained his stock and got drafted early he could've at least flamed out after getting paid, but now that he's basically already a late-round/UDFA prospect (if not off every team's board) he'd pretty much have to completely turn himself around as a human being in order to ever even move up a tick on an NFL depth chart. I don't see that happening, not at all. He is already, in my eyes, a certified lost cause. No sympathy here, it's all his own fault.

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I remember when people jumped me months ago for saying he was more of a 3rd rounder than a 1st, Ravens fans were the worse.

I still love his intensity, and think as a 3-4 ILB in the late rounds he's worth a shot
I'll admit I was one of these people.

It's a shame, I still think that the potential is there and that he will get drafted by the 6th-7th round and could go as high as the fifth (I'd be willing to spend a fifth on him)

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You know you're dealing with someone insufferable when their college coordinator describes them as "all hype." Has that ever happened before?
I don't think I've ever seen a player/former coaching staff throw each other under the bus so much.

It's not a good look on Taze but I expect the coaching staff to be the better men and while they may be giving their honest opinion, it should be gone about in a better way than saying that he is all hype.
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I don't think he ever had the mental disposition or maturity to make it as a pro.
If the whole predraft process hasn't humbled him as a human being and a football player, I don't know what can.

Just reminds me so much of Maurice Clarett, a head case who was his own worst enemy.
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I don't think he ever had the mental disposition or maturity to make it as a pro.
If the whole predraft process hasn't humbled him as a human being and a football player, I don't know what can.
Interestingly, I do think that being a late round draft pick could be the best thing for him.

Being drafted in the late rounds rather than the first relieves some of the expectations and may humble him slightly. I know you say it hasn't but possibly not being asked to visit and going late will do the trick.

Furthermore, not being a first round pick won't put the spotlight on him and the refs may not be so keyed in on him during games. Not saying he doesn't deserve the flags he gets, but there were definitely some questionable ones this year that I think he got on reputation alone.
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