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Old 04-27-2012, 08:15 PM    (permalink
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This is where my faith gets broken a little bit. You like the guy. That's fine. He's projected as a 6th round pick and there's hardly any smoke out there that he'll be taken any higher....and you take him in the second. Too cute.
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How the hell can they pick him? Christ. Anyway here's a blurb:

Athletic and well-proportioned, Wilson is a physically and mentally tough defensive back who has played corner and free safety, though his movement skills are more smooth than sudden. At his best in zone where he can keep plays in front of him. Reads and reacts quickly, drops downhill under control and is physical filling in run support. Average pedal speed and transitional quickness, as he lacks range and recovery burst off the hash and does not make impact plays on the ball. Needs to get stronger as a tackler.

My enthusiasm is completely gone. What an awful pick. Worse than Seattle's Irvin pick.

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He sounds just what we need at safety!





.......yeaaaaaaah
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Sounds like the prototype in what we look for in a safety. Non-impactful plays are a big deal here and tackling is frowned upon.


Anyway, supposedly was some sort of Kiper/BB exchange. Anyone catch it?
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I guess the reason you take a guy in the second that could have been drafted in the seventh.. is because you don't have a seventh.. right?

Seriously, I think this guarantees we won't get Boykin. because there'd be no reason to take two DB's and I can't imagine Boykin being lower on their DB board than this guy.
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Sounds like the prototype in what we look for in a safety. No impact plays are a big deal here and tackling is frowned upon.


Anyway, supposedly was some sort of Kiper/BB exchange. Anyone catch it?
No but if anyone gets a link that'd be awesome lol.
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We have a reputation to keep for whiffing on defensive backs in the second round. That's what's important guys.
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His name's Wilson and he played DB for Illinois? Any chance he's related to Eugene? I mean that would give me a glimmer of hope for him.
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Sounds like the prototype in what we look for in a safety. Non-impactful plays are a big deal here and tackling is frowned upon.


Anyway, supposedly was some sort of Kiper/BB exchange. Anyone catch it?
#1 rule of Patriots DB drafting: Covering anyone is secondary to being able to play special teams.
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Special teams is sexy. Except for kick returns. **** those.
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I'm ******* mindblown right now....
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When you only have four picks, you really can't afford to be throwing any of them away.
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Scott doesn't even has him in his rankings... Jeez...
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Some Bleacher Report write up. Yes, we've come to the point where Bleacher Report is a valid source for something. Out of necessity though.



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Tavon Wilson

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Combine Measurements

Height: 5’11-3/4”

Weight: 205 pounds

40-yard dash: 4.52 seconds

20-yard split: 2.56 seconds

10 yard split: 1.60 seconds

20 yard shuttle: 4.16 seconds

Three-cone drill: 7.04 seconds


Wilson does get beat though.
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Bench press: 17 reps

Vertical jump: 32.0"

Broad jump: 10'4"



Stats

2008: 11 games, 0 games started, 11 tackles, 0.5 tackles for loss, 1 pass break-up

2009: 12 games, 12 games started, 74 tackles, 3.5 tackles for loss, 7 pass break-ups, 1 interception

2010: 13 games, 13 games started, 48 tackles, 2 tackles for loss, 8 pass break-ups, 1 interception

2011: 13 games, 13 games started, 81 tackles, 6.5 tackles for loss, 6 pass break-ups, 1 interception, 1 forced fumble, 1 sack, 2 fumbles recovered, 1 touchdown



Scouting Report


Taking a bad angle.
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Strengths

Wilson has an excellent athletic ability and can fly around the field. He also has an ideal build for a safety at 6’0”, 205 pounds and can attack a player and create fumbles with his hits. He’s a smart leader as well and is known as a hard-working player.

His best part of his game is his special teams' abilities. He is an instant gunner for whoever drafts him and can still contribute as a depth safety. Also, he has an excellent blitz ability.



Weaknesses

He isn’t the most fluid athlete and has issues with coverage. He doesn’t have the best hips and isn’t the most instinctive player, either. He also has issues wrapping up his tackles and doesn’t always take the best angles.



Overview

He’s a true project at safety. He is not likely to contribute past special teams early on and is a likely role player.
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Meh... I don't care. They have two picks left and they wanted him. Take him. If they like him better than the other safeties, then he's worth the pick.
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He's a 6th or 7th rounder. You can get a UFDA with as much upside. This is completely inexplicable.

But yeah covering guys is optional for our secondary. Can't believe just how angry I am right now.
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Sounds promising.
Meh...I'll take Matt Miller over Scott Wright all day long. I've known Matt for 12 years and have worked with him on draft sites before. He's very good at analyzing film.
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We just took a special teams safety in the second round...come on dude.
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This is where you wish you could get inside his head and see what it is that he sees in a guy like this that makes him better than all the other players that are on the board. I mean it's not like you're reaching for him at the bottom of the fourth round like you did for, say, Rich Ohrnberger. You basically are saying he is one of the top 50 players in the draft.
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He's a 6th or 7th rounder. You can get a UFDA with as much upside. This is completely inexplicable.

But yeah covering guys is optional for our secondary. Can't believe just how angry I am right now.
The physical and athletic numbers on the safeties this year is horribly underwhelming. When it's like that, you know a team will go with someone from out of left field who they think is a better fit in the NFL.
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I'm gonna hold judgement for now. i mean, we were up in arms mostly about ridley last year and saying the same **** and now it looks very promising for him.
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We just took a special teams safety in the second round...come on dude.
He was just as productive in college and had better physicals than a lot of the safeties we've been talking about.

If that's their guy at safety, I'm happy. I just wanted them to address the position with a guy they liked a lot and they did.
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Alright, let's continue discovering just who the hell this kid is together.


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A thickly put together safety prospect with a compact frame and natural girth through the mid section. However, looks heavy-footed when trying to re-direct and isn't real sudden/explosive in space. Tries to sit into his drop off the line and does a decent job keeping his base down and feet under him. However, gets upright when asked to turn and run, is stiff in the hips and lacks the range to get off the top as a centerfielder. Struggles in tight areas as well, doesn't feel routes develop around him quickly and lacks the fluidity to open up his hips laterally and close. Gets very grabby and is uncomfortable in space and doesn't possess the short area quickness/range to hold up in man. Possesses questionable instincts as well, rarely getting early jumps on the football and struggles to recognize his run/pass keys at times.

Displays a slight burst attacking downhill and running the alley. Locates the football quickly and has the tenacity needed to work his way toward the ball carrier. However, lacks that second gear to routinely make the play. Sees his fair share of angles outpaced toward daylight and isn't the most effective when asked to breakdown one-on-one. Lowers his shoulder into contact and generates some pop into contact when in a phone booth. However, is inconsistent wrapping up at times, as he will slip off backs and allow ball carriers to create through contact.

Impression: A thick framed kid with some natural power, but his lacking closing gear shows up in both the run and pass game.
So assuming he pans out, he's still the wrong type of safety. Fantastic.
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