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I know we did have AD in the preseason, and the offense was pretty vanilla and all. I just have a bad feeling about Ponder this season. I hope im wrong.
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I know we did have AD in the preseason, and the offense was pretty vanilla and all. I just have a bad feeling about Ponder this season. I hope im wrong.
We have AP, things are fine.
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Such with the grease cut on Sullivan after an INT and Sullivan needed to be helped off. Cost Detroit 7 points, but losing Sullivan would be brutal.
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Ponder is awful.
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He was looking somewhat decent until that... should have taken the sack.
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Ponder might be awful but our Defense has been playing like **** today.
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It's going to be a long season folks. I said 7-9 before the season started and I'm sticking with it.
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Ponder is bad. Musgrave sucks as an offensive coordinator. And the defense couldnt tackle today. Great start...
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yeah the offense looked bad, outside of Simpson & AD's first carry, but the defense looked worse. No one could tackle, but Harrison was flying all over the place.

Cassle will be our starting QB by week 6.
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Not a whole lot of encouraging signs today.. Lions DL was just dominant after that 1 early mistake to Peterson
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The only possible positive you can take from the game would be Harrison Smith. That guy was involved with every tackle it seemed. But you could tell that we were missing Kevin Williams. The D Line just couldn't stop anything or do anything.

As for Ponder there would be moments when He actually looked somewhat decent and then there were times when he looked like a deer in headlights. Also I agree with Musgrave sucks as a offensive coordinator. He is so predictable its frustrating.

Hats off to Detroit though, they seem like their going to be a tough offense to stop with Bush. They just need to stop being idiots.
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I don't think our offensive line won a single play since the opening touchdown. They were just dominated. Greenway seemed very slow today too for some reason. Smith, AP, Simpson, and Walsh were the only players worth a damn today. Jeff Locke, who was awesome in the preseason, kicked horribly today.
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Week 1 Lions-Vikings Thoughts

The good
- Team held its own pretty well against Calvin Johnson
- Jerome Simpson was able to get some separation over the top

The bad
- For the most part Christian Ponder
- Run game beyond AP's first run
- The defense against the short to medium passing game
- A few close, tough penalties late to help the Lions put it out of range
- Pass rush didn't finish quite like I thought they would

Ponder needs to look better and be more decisive (broken record on that), a win at Chicago next week still gives them a 1-1 start against division teams on the road. But that will not be easy at all. Lots of work to do.
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I wouldn't be surprised if we started of 1-3 going into the bye. If they play the way they did today next week, the vikings won't win vs the bears. I can also see them dropping one of two of the Browns/ Steelers.

I'm still backing Ponder for the time being. He had some nice throws today, but also some very poor decisions. I would say he is on a short leash. If the passing game is sub-par going into week 7 or 8, I would expect Frazier and crew to pull the plug on Ponder and give Cassel/ MBT a shot at starting.

I got a boner when Peterson took that run 78 yards, but was disappointed the rest of the game. Our o-line was dominated the entire game.

Bottom line, We are picking top 10 next draft if the vikings continue to play like they did today.
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Cordarelle Patterson played 5 snaps yesterday. One less than Joe Webb. Why?
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Because we run a vanilla offense where we go 2 WR 1 TE 1 RB 1 FB and then we run it to the left. Then when we pass we roll out Ponder to his left rather than his right which makes it difficult for him to throw.
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In other news, I should not have read the vikings forum on Footballs Future. Bad, bad idea. People are overly pessimistic because of this game. to put things simply, Ponder didn't have that bad of a game. He made some nice passes and gained quite a few yards. The offense still had over 300 yards of offense which is good considering the run game was not that great. Some of the decisions he made were bad, yes.

The pass that was intercepted in the 2nd quarter was bad...he should have taken the sack, but from what I understand, the ball was meant to go out of bounds, but his arm was hit. Still a bad mistake, but it happens unfortunately. The first INT was not his fault entirely either. The last one Ponder put in a bad place for Rudolph which is why it was tipped and intercepted.

We need to see more of Cordarelle Patterson --- a player that we did give up quite a bit for and who also showed great flashes in pre-season. Come on, Musgrave. Mix things up. Stop relying so much on a running game that was piss poor yesterday. Did anyone actually count how many times Peterson went backwards yesterday?
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Not to stick up for Musgrave, but it might also be that Patterson is dealing with a back injury.
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