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Old 06-22-2012, 11:07 AM    (permalink
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ray lewis at 20 is still high but MUCH more reasonable than his #4 ranking last year
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1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Calvin Johnson
3. Tom Brady
4. Darrelle Revis
5. Drew Brees
6. Adrian Peterson
7. Haloti Ngata
8. Larry Fitzgerald
9. Demarcus Ware
10. Patrick Willis

Thats my guess.
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I think the top 4 will be Rodgers, Brady, Brees, Johnson (in that order). I wouldn't be surprised if Johnson ends up higher, maybe even #1, but I think it's hard to not put those three QBs #1-3.

The other six guys could almost go in any order and I wouldn't have a problem with it. Part of it depends on when the votes were placed. Peterson pre-injury would probably be voted a bit higher than Peterson post-injury.
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Especially when he's easily your team's best player and your 2nd best somehow made it in the top 10.
"Easily our best player" is a matter of opinion. Neither is more important or more dominant than the other. They both are consisdered the best at their respective positions. Its just that Willis plays at a position where we have other outstanding players, thus that unit not being as dependant on his presence as the front 3 is when it comes to Smith. It comes down to which position you feel is more valuable defensively. I agree with Ness though, I thought they both should have been top 12. But its a offense driven league and thats what alot of the rankings dictate so I wasnt surprised at all. I honestly didnt think I'd see any defensive players in the top 10, aside from maybe Revis.
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I wouldn't have a problem with that. AD is as dominant at the RB position as CJ is at receiver. Basically it's a toss up but you can't go wrong with either.
Not really. AD is hurt right now and might not be as good as he was before, while Calvin is unquestionably the most dominant receiver and offensive weapon in the NFL.
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Not really. AD is hurt right now and might not be as good as he was before, while Calvin is unquestionably the most dominant receiver and offensive weapon in the NFL.
I imagine there's still a good faction of NFL fans who'd take Larry Fitz over Calvin Johnson, all things equal. And by all things I mean Larry having Stafford throwing to him instead of John Skelton.
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I imagine there's still a good faction of NFL fans who'd take Larry Fitz over Calvin Johnson, all things equal. And by all things I mean Larry having Stafford throwing to him instead of John Skelton.
Yes, Calvin has never had to perform with a horrible QB.
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This probably isn't how they will end up being ranked, but here's how I'd rank the top ten:

1. Tom Brady

2. Drew Brees

3. Aaron Rodgers

4. Darrelle Revis

5. Adrian Peterson

6. Larry Fitzgerald

7. DeMarcus Ware

8. Calvin Johnson

9. Haloti Ngata

10. Patrick Willis
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Curiously, you rank Fitz over Megatron. Do you think the players feel that way?
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3 bmore defenders in the top 20? reed and lewis are soo overrated
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This probably isn't how they will end up being ranked, but here's how I'd rank the top ten:

1. Tom Brady

2. Drew Brees

3. Aaron Rodgers

4. Darrelle Revis

5. Adrian Peterson

6. Larry Fitzgerald

7. DeMarcus Ware

8. Calvin Johnson

9. Haloti Ngata

10. Patrick Willis
I beg you to explain to me what you have against the Lions. You ranked Vick over Stafford, you're ranking Fitz and AD over Calvin...there has to be something. I think AD is the best RB in the NFL, but he isn't much of a factor in the passing game and that is vital in the NFL today. Factor in his current injury, there is zero reason for him to be over Calvin.
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No way that Peterson is above Calvin.
I wouldn't rank Peterson over Johnson, but even with his injury I think the players will.
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If I were a betting man:

1. Tom Brady
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Adrian Peterson
4. Calvin Johnson
5. Darrelle Revis
6. Larry Fitzgerald
7. Demarcus Ware
8. Drew Brees
9. Haloti Ngata
10. Patrick Willis
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1. Aaron Rodgers
2. Tom Brady
3. Calvin Johnson
4. Darrelle Revis
5. Larry Fitzgerald
6. Adrian Peterson
7. Demarcus Ware
8. Haloti Ngata
9. Patrick Willis
10. Drew Brees
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3 bmore defenders in the top 20? reed and lewis are soo overrated
I agree that Ray Lewis isn't top 20 anymore but his still is a very important player for his defensive calls and his leadership.

Ed Reed may be the most impactful DB in the league. The way that he impacts how a passing game can attack is huge in addition to his turnovers. Even great QBs like Brady have to change their offense to avoid Reed.
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1. Tom Brady
2. Calvin Johnson
3. Aaron Rodgers
4. Darrelle Revis
5. Drew Brees
6. Demarcus Ware
7. Adrian Peterson
8. Patrick Willis
9. Haloti Ngata
10. Larry Fitzgerald
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3 bmore defenders in the top 20? reed and lewis are soo overrated
Correction, FOUR bmore defenders in the top 20? Reed, Rev Ray, T-Sizzle and NGATA!!!! Each one, with the likely exception of Lewis (he should probably be in the 40-60 range) are very worth of top 20 status.
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The official results are in:

10. Patrick Willis
9. Haloti Ngata
8. Adrian Peterson
7. Larry Fitzgerald
6. DeMarcus Ware
5. Darrelle Revis
4. Tom Brady
3. Calvin Johnson
2. Drew Brees
1. Aaron Rodgers
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I can see Rodgers beating Brady, but I think Brady should still be #2
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I would have been really happy had Megatron come in at #1, but I knew it would never happen.

Oh well. That list is fine as it is I guess.
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Isn't the list supposed to be best players for only 2012? Because isn't Adrian Peterson going to miss a substantial amount of time because of his knee?
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Not really. He's well ahead of schedule right now, which would put him right in line to return for the start of the season.
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I would put Johnson at #2 and Brees at #3. Overall though, not that bad of a top ten I think.
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“Having been voted a Top 10 NFL player for the 2012 season is a cherished honor because the selection was made by my peers, and a player can have no greater accolade nor satisfaction than knowing that those he lines up against for 60 minutes every week value to the highest degree his talent, competitiveness, effort, productivity and achievement.

I’ve completed 8 NFL seasons, & while I am somewhat satisfied with personal achievements, I have come close only once to achieving the ultimate team goal.

Being a productive WR is no longer enough. I’ve grown into a position of leadership as a Cardinals team captain and have tried to expand my role as a mentor and example for our core of young players.

My sincere hope is that we can get back to the playoffs on a regular basis and become Super Bowl Champions.

Our team was 2 minutes away from that goal on February 4, 2009, and similarly, my 7th rank of NFL top players leaves room for improvement.

I will strive as always to expand my role and contributions to team success, be as productive as possible, and win a Championship…..”
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Brady at 4 is a ******* joke.

/homerrant
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