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Old 07-10-2012, 08:10 AM    (permalink
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If it wasn't for day limit caps, day one would go on for a week.
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When the day ends, somebody watch and/or protect me. I'm sick getting fenikz-d on night 1 and want to actually contribute for once!

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If it wasn't for day limit caps, day one would go on for a week.
Not true. No caps were instituted in all of the games we played when Mafia Games were first brought over to NFLDC and Day 1 never lasted that long.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:28 AM    (permalink
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Alright, I have a meeting to go to at work that probably won't be over before the 24-hour cap. Hope I'm not killed during RR.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:29 AM    (permalink
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We only need 4 more no-lynch votes and I think the logical arguments for it are much better than the ******** internet chest thumping arguments against it. RR is BAD.

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Old 07-10-2012, 08:32 AM    (permalink
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Id rather go to the RR than no lynch.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:32 AM    (permalink
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Explain how a logical and well explained choice translates to cowardice to you.

Because you don't throw anything out there. You get to hide behind your safe, "Well I didn't vote for him!" if it's a good guy, and you give no voting record if it's a mafia. It's just bush league for town aligned members and an easy tactic for the mafia.


And it isn't logical at all. You know what's illogical? Thinking you can go every day without lynching a good guy. **** happens, but at least we have more indication of things to fall back on at that point. If you have a solid belief of someone being evil, make it known, cast a vote, go after them. It's good to see what happens when someone gets backed into a corner and how the rest of the players respond to the situation. Going for a no lynch isn't any different than the people who refuse to vote unless it's a tack on vote, or there's info out there from a confirmed investigator.


If you think I'm evil, then ****, vote for me. Just don't play it like a *****, be bold.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:34 AM    (permalink
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I know you're evil too killswitch.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:35 AM    (permalink
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is the only argument really: "well we could hit a good person" ? REALLY?
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Updated Vote Count:

No Lynch (8) - CJ, JR, sbh, broth, CMD, Cigaro, Gonzo, killxswitch
Cigaro (1) - Forenci
CMD (1) - TH
Brodeur (1) - D-Unit
Gonzo (3) - Caddy, Renji, Deep
TH (1) - Shane
Broth (1) - ATL
Snicho (1) - Rufus

With 21 alive, 11 are needed for majority.
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is the only argument really: "well we could hit a good person" ? REALLY?
It's that and "this game is different!"
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If you think I'm evil, then ****, vote for me. Just don't play it like a *****, be bold.
Like I said, ******** internet chest thumping.

No one voting no-lynch thinks we can completely avoid killing a good guy. Obviously that isn't possible. But the valid, logical reasons have been laid out multiple times and the only reasons to ask for it again and again are because your either too lazy to look yourself or because you want to ignore it and hope that your incessant whining for reasons will eventually exhaust your opponents' will to continue to answer your blathering.
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It's that and "this game is different!"
Oh that changes everything. Lets learn new stuff by not doing anything about this different game.
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Old 07-10-2012, 08:42 AM    (permalink
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Empty condescension is often effective but it's not a valid way to argue.
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Dude we argued but you guys keep bringing up the same argument:

WE ARE GOING TO KILL A GOOD GUY!

So what? Its one good guy. We learn so much more by seeing who votes for who, who deems who suspicious, who voted for who, who defended who.

Then there are roles that get information out of it too, there was a role that could see how many evil people were voting to lynch. There are people who cant hammer people, there is a lot that can be seen by lynching someone.

No lynch ensures not killing a good guy but also ensures not killing a bad guy. Lynching is one of the only measures the town has to get rid of people such as serial killers and gfs. Why waste that opportunity?

Say we kill Cig. If he is actually bad, it tells us alot about e.g. Shane.

Mafia also tends to get very anxious when voting, trying to not make a wrong move, overthinking stuff.

No lynch gives us nothing.
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Like I said, ******** internet chest thumping.

No one voting no-lynch thinks we can completely avoid killing a good guy. Obviously that isn't possible. But the valid, logical reasons have been laid out multiple times and the only reasons to ask for it again and again are because your either too lazy to look yourself or because you want to ignore it and hope that your incessant whining for reasons will eventually exhaust your opponents' will to continue to answer your blathering.

Or there's more than solid enough evidence to go on for a Day 1 lynch (yourself being the lead candidate) and people aren't taking a stand. And internet chest bumping? Really? Excuse me for not walking on egg shells in a ******* mafia game and am willing to take a risk.
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Im honestly with Renji on this one. I think we learn more from actually having a lynch, be it random or not, even if we do lose a good guy.
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We have never lynched an investigative person day 1. Ever. We lynched a doctor once in the FF game, but broth didnt even look at his role.
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Dude we argued but you guys keep bringing up the same argument:

WE ARE GOING TO KILL A GOOD GUY!

This is not the only argument and you know it.

So what? Its one good guy. We learn so much more by seeing who votes for who, who deems who suspicious, who voted for who, who defended who.

We've already seen people voting for others, people calling others suspicious, people defending each other. You act like the only way any of that happens is if we kill somebody. IT'S ALREADY HAPPENED.

Then there are roles that get information out of it too, there was a role that could see how many evil people were voting to lynch. There are people who cant hammer people, there is a lot that can be seen by lynching someone.

Finally something worth responding to. What was this role? That doesn't seem to be a very common one but it is possible

No lynch ensures not killing a good guy but also ensures not killing a bad guy. Lynching is one of the only measures the town has to get rid of people such as serial killers and gfs. Why waste that opportunity?

Lynching somebody day one basically ensures not killing a bad guy. JR's research showed this. Odds are so low of finding a mafia member day one that they are apparently functionally negligible.


Say we kill Cig. If he is actually bad, it tells us alot about e.g. Shane.

If. But odds are again super low that he is.

Mafia also tends to get very anxious when voting, trying to not make a wrong move, overthinking stuff.

And again, there is voting going on. It is not like every single person other than you and ATL are demanding a no-lynch. It is not as black-and-white as you are trying to make it.

No lynch gives us nothing.

Baseless and untrue. We already have a lot of what you claim a day one lynch gives us.
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I have to go to a meeting. Hopefully enough of you use some braincells and vote no-lynch so we don't go to RR.

Speaking of that, you want an RR over a no-lynch? That is pretty suspicious to me. Why would anyone want a RR?
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Thanks for confirming things for me bud. Same childish retorts when pressedas you did in the Skyrim game. Also funny how you felt the need to announce the win condition in your first post, which was likely given to the mafia just like the Skyrim game. And of course that nice little tack on vote for a favorable mafia outcome. Voting on my phone is a itch so if the mod can count this as a vote for kill... otherwise I will do it when I get back in front of a CPU

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Updated Vote Count:

No Lynch (8) - CJ, JR, sbh, broth, CMD, Cigaro, Gonzo, killxswitch
Cigaro (1) - Forenci
CMD (1) - TH
Brodeur (1) - D-Unit
Gonzo (3) - Caddy, Renji, Deep
TH (1) - Shane
Killxswitch (1) - ATL
Snicho (1) - Rufus

With 21 alive, 11 are needed for majority.

20 minutes remaining.
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Good one bud.
You are wrong. Its one thing to see people throw around baseless claims, its something else when people actually need to make decisions to actually kill someone or they are actually in danger to get lynched.

So we havent hit anyone bad the first day? So what? this is a new game. Just because we keep killing townies and millers, it is a bad thing? How many games did we win of those? How many games did we end up going like: OH DAMN, I WISH WE WOULDNT HAVE LYNCHED DAY ONE?

Not once. People lynched day 1 are most likely being lynched day 2.

At this point im tired of argueing. Lets hope for RR.
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Renji at this point as I said before, if we lynch right now all we would do is ride a lynch train to prevent RR. RR IS the worst thing for the town. We garner no information from a RR as it holds no voting pattern with it. The only thing we get is a slightly better odds of finding a person with our night actions tonight.
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