Draftopia Daily News - Game Thread - Mafia Wins!!! - Page 6

Dr. Gonzo · 07-09-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepThreat

Did you see me vote for you? Please tell me where I did that, oh wise one. You voted for me for simply pointing out that you advocating a no lynch is odd, and it is. I didn't even vote for you. That is ******* brilliant.

The extent of my suspicion against you was saying your suggesting a no lynch was odd. That, and my opposition to a no lynch gets me a vote from you. You, sir, are a genius.

Now you turn to "fun" and "a waste". I don't give a **** about that. I want to win, and a no lynch hurts our chances of doing so.

Hey bud, I voted for you before you said anything about me. Keep up.

DeepThreat · 07-09-2012, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cigaro

Which is the exact same scenario I just laid out for a day one lynch, except the day one lynch costs us an extra person to get to the same state of cluelessness.

It isn't. The information revealed on day two is always greater after a lynch than a no lynch. I've played multiple games in which both happened. People think, "Oh, we're not going to kill an innocent person. This has to be the better way." And it's complete and utter BS.

DeepThreat · 07-09-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

Hey bud, I voted for you before you said anything about me. Keep up.

And it made no sense then! I didn't respond for 10 minutes while I was eating lunch. That is what your vote is based on. This doesn't help your argument against me.

Gay Ork Wang · 07-09-2012, 02:06 PM

Im out for 2-3 hours

Cigaro · 07-09-2012, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepThreat

It isn't. The information revealed on day two is always greater after a lynch than a no lynch. I've played multiple games in which both happened. People think, "Oh, we're not going to kill an innocent person. This has to be the better way." And it's complete and utter BS.

Literally never been the case in any game I've played.

DeepThreat · 07-09-2012, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Cigaro

Literally never been the case in any game I've played.

There's a reason the most experienced players (Brody, Job) always advocate a lynch. It's the much better option.

Dr. Gonzo · 07-09-2012, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepThreat

And it made no sense then! I didn't respond for 10 minutes while I was eating lunch. That is what your vote is based on. This doesn't help your argument against me.

15 minutes. I also just have not liked how you have approached this game. Now saying I am the only one you are suspicious of and then not voting for me. Either you don't want to start the lynch train on me because you don't want to be the first one looked into when I come up good or you want someone else to start a lynch train so you can hop on it and do what you do and lay low.

SuperMcGee · 07-09-2012, 02:09 PM

I like the desired effect of Renji's plan, but not so much the plan itself. I think it's good to get the mafia second guessing. I think that sometimes is accomplished when people ask to be watched, but that does little for us if we don't know if they are good and can be a sketchy/selfish move in itself.

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Originally Posted by Cigaro

In every game I've played where no lynch was an option but not used, no new usable information came out from the lynch. That's completely true.

Are you saying we've never been able to gather anything from a Day 1 Lynch? I don't want to get into specifics of why that is wrong, but suffice to say I don't agree.

Cigaro · 07-09-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepThreat

There's a reason the most experienced players (Brody, Job) always advocate a lynch. It's the much better option.

I couldn't care less what the 'most experienced players' advocate. That it no way makes them right.

Cigaro · 07-09-2012, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SuperMcgee

Are you saying we've never been able to gather anything from a Day 1 Lynch? I don't want to get into specifics of why that is wrong, but suffice to say I don't agree.

Not in a game that I played where no lynch was an option, no. Its possible, but very rare, and not worth it to me.

DeepThreat · 07-09-2012, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

15 minutes. I also just have not liked how you have approached this game. Now saying I am the only one you are suspicious of and then not voting for me. Either you don't want to start the lynch train on me because you don't want to be the first one looked into when I come up good or you want someone else to start a lynch train so you can hop on it and do what you do and lay low.

15 minutes vs 10 minutes. Who gives a ****? That is what your lynch is based on. Do you realize how incredibly stupid that is?

I didn't vote for you because I don't actually think you're evil. And if you call what I'm doing laying lower you must be really, really stupid. I am among the top posters and have been engaged in debates with two of you. How, exactly, is that laying low?

Dr. Gonzo · 07-09-2012, 02:21 PM

Deep I don't think you are reading all posts if you think I am voting for you because you did not answer for 15 mins. Go back and read them. I am voting for you because right now of all people I think you are most likely to be evil. Not one of your arguments has made sense to me.

Grizzlegom · 07-09-2012, 02:22 PM

Updated Vote Count:

No Lynch (4) - CJ, Cigaro, JR, Forenci
Deep (1) - Gonzo

With 21 alive, 11 are needed for majority.

Brodeur · 07-09-2012, 02:23 PM

Isn't Cigaro evil like 95 percent of the time?

DeepThreat · 07-09-2012, 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

Deep I don't think you are reading all posts if you think I am voting for you because you did not answer for 15 mins. Go back and read them. I am voting for you because right now of all people I think you are most likely to be evil. Not one of your arguments has made sense to me.

What was your initial reason for voting for me? Because I didn't respond for 15 minutes.

ATLDirtyBirds · 07-09-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

Join with me my friend. Let us take out Deep! I say there is a 40 percent chance he is evil.

I have someone in mind that I find much more suspicious. I'm just not ready to make the play on it yet, I want to hear everyone chime in first.

DeepThreat · 07-09-2012, 02:24 PM

And what arguments of mine haven't made sense? I argued against the no lynch by saying it accomplishes nothing, a sentiment you have agreed with in the past.

I said I thought it was odd you were advocating a no lynch.

What did I say that didn't make sense?

jrdrylie · 07-09-2012, 02:25 PM

Okay, I went back and looked at the older games and here is what I found out.

The no lynch option has been used once (The Harry Potter Game). On day two, we lynched a member of the mafia.

Somebody has been lynched on the first day 9 times. 8 times, a good guy was lynched. The other time, a neutral member was lynched. When a good guy has been lynched day one, a bad guy has been lynched day two three times, a good guy has been lynched four times, and another time, no decision could be made so the game went straight to the night phase. In the game where a neutral was lynched day one, a good guy was lynched day two.

So basically, we are almost guaranteed to lynch a good guy today. Tomorrow, we have about a 1/3 chance of lynching a bad guy. It seems to me that randomly lynching doesn't give the information some of you seem to think it does.

Dr. Gonzo · 07-09-2012, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepThreat

What was your initial reason for voting for me? Because I didn't respond for 15 minutes.

I didn't like your initial post and I wanted to make sure you felt a little heat and started talking. I intended in eventually changing it but nothing you have said since has convinced me to unvote for you. So you advocate a lynch, name me as the only person you are suspicious of and then you say you think I am good. Makes no sense.

DeepThreat · 07-09-2012, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

I didn't like your initial post and I wanted to make sure you felt a little heat and started talking. I intended in eventually changing it but nothing you have said since has convinced me to unvote for you. So you advocate a lynch, name me as the only person you are suspicious of and then you say you think I am good. Makes no sense.

Because things stay the same from post to post. You can be unbelievably dense. You got upset because I said I thought you were a little off, and now you're claiming my suspicion of you makes me suspicious. You do this in every game.

At the moment, I think Cigaro is the most off. But right now so few people are posting it's hard to get a good feel for things.

Cigaro · 07-09-2012, 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodeur

Isn't Cigaro evil like 95 percent of the time?

I've been mafia once outside of the arena games, as far as I can recall.

Dr. Gonzo · 07-09-2012, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by DeepThreat

Because things stay the same from post to post. You can be unbelievably dense. You got upset because I said I thought you were a little off, and now you're claiming my suspicion of you makes me suspicious. You do this in every game.

At the moment, I think Cigaro is the most off. But right now so few people are posting it's hard to get a good feel for things.

Do you really think I am upset by your incredibly weak accusation of me. It made me laugh. You said you think I am good. Why say I am suspicious then? You are playing exactly like evil Vidae right now.

Dr. Gonzo · 07-09-2012, 02:36 PM

What made you start thinking I was good Deep?

DeepThreat · 07-09-2012, 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Gonzo

What made you start thinking I was good Deep?

I don't think you would be this adamant over something if you were evil. You would be more likely to sort of fade off like Cigaro did.

And you still haven't given a reason as to why I'm evil. You say my arguments were flawed while not pointing out how they were flawed.

TitanHope · 07-09-2012, 02:42 PM

I'm here, and I'm posting from my laptop that is sitting on a tipped over oscillating fan.

Cause my laptop's fan broke.

So it's really annoying to post.

So wobbly.