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Old 01-02-2014, 12:14 PM    (permalink
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I like Scotty's idea! Is the draft deep on interior OL?
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You don't make personnel decisions based on what the fans want.

If I get Slauson or Mack or both in FA, and draft OL in round 3, and use rounds 1 and 2 on Clowney I don't see why that would be a terrible idea.

Having that said, it's a pipedream. I know it won't happen.

What Scotty said is more realistic. Get a FA OLmen, draft Dennard in round 1 to plug in a hole at CB, then draft OL in rounds 2 and 3. Guards and Centers are great value in those rounds.
It's that bad of a move is my point. That's the bone headed move that gets you fired.
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It's that bad of a move is my point. That's the bone headed move that gets you fired.
No it's not. Healthy JPP and Clowney on the edges, with a bolstered OL through FA will be just fine.

We live and die with pass rush. Getting a once in a decade DE is the smart move. It's ballsy, but it's the smart move.

Talent always supercedes depth. Depth is overrated and not as talented as we want to believe.
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Clowney didn't really bother to show up in yesterday's game. He just scares me for some reason.
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No it's not. Healthy JPP and Clowney on the edges, with a bolstered OL through FA will be just fine.

We live and die with pass rush. Getting a once in a decade DE is the smart move. It's ballsy, but it's the smart move.

Talent always supercedes depth. Depth is overrated and not as talented as we want to believe.
Obviously talent wise is fine. I am not saying he stinks or anything. But how much did it cost us to trade for ELi? How much did it cost the redskins to trade for the right for Bob the 3rd? Now we pick at the 12th spot. Where do you think the Clowney range would be? 1 or 2? How much do you think it will cost us to trade up there?

It would be A LOT to say the least to entertain your hypothetical. No we will not bolster our OL via FA. Build through the draft and have them grow together for a long time. Yes, that would mean drafting and hitting on the players we draft.

And depth is not over rated. You have good depth, it's next man up. We have seen this throughout the NFL. That goes with your past thoughts on scouts make their money in the first round, and how later rounds were ignored.

Depth is very important especially in a sport where injuries occur frequently. Obviously you need talent, but you want to strike a balance between both if you can in a free agency era. So scouts make their money mid to late rounds because you need to quality players for depth or potentially be better than that.

Trading up for the cost of JC would be assinine to say the least. It would cost a lot, and we are not anywhere close to afford all those picks for another DE.
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Next man up is a ton of crap.

Depth is overrated. As long as you're deep on the DL and your qb can function behind the OL you'll be fine. Depth is important in key spots, but being deep everywhere is not necessary.

We overrate draft picks at times. That scrub LB you took in the 5th round isn't that important.
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A RB I really like in rounds 3 or 4 is Storm Johnson from UCF.
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Clowney didn't really bother to show up in yesterday's game. He just scares me for some reason.
Because so many players seem to stop caring once they get their money and Clowney seems to have stopped caring in anticipation of getting his money.
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Clowney was a beast in yesterday's game...
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Clowney was a beast in yesterday's game...
Was I watching a different game? 4 tackles and no sacks. I think two of the tackles were in the second level which shows some good hustle.
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Was I watching a different game?
Did you not see him dominate the second half?

He was also doubled and tripled all game long and he still got pressure. On top of that, at the end of the game when they singled him he was disrupting the play on every play.

The dude is a monster.
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sooooo many WR's in this draft. So many.
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sooooo many WR's in this draft. So many.
Mike Evans is very tall.
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Mike Evans would be a dream for Eli, but with holes elsewhere I can' imagine a first rounder WR, even with a trade back.
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Eh, I want WRs who can separate. As long as we're running this vertical offense, we need guys who can get open on their stems.
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Dennard and Clinton Dix are both high on my non OT draft prospect list.

We could use a stud CB.
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Marquis Lee declared for the draft. This WR class is stackedddddd
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I feel like a lot of stuff is lining up for us to kill this draft.
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We are fairly well placed in the draft.

I think our Oline will be our top target in free agency.

I wouldn't mind us looking at TE at some point early, the best fit for us imho is Austin Seferian-Jenkins. I think he is that all round TE weapon we badly need.

I would be open to trading down in the draft as well.

I could see us drafting fairly heavily on defence, with guys to develop behind older vets.
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Another guy that I'm interested in is Dennard, the CB from Michigan State.

I love his potential. Him and Prince together would make a great CB duo.


I agree with you.
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I like Washington TE Austin Seferian-Jenkins.

He is that all-round TE we badly need as well as a legitimate big target for Eli.

I think under Pope's coaching this guy is a stud.
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I want to see how this Jace Amaro does at his pro day and combine.
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my current thoughts on a possible draft

12. T Greg Robinson, Auburn

43. LB Ryan Shazier, Ohio State

74. RB Bishop Sankey, Washington

109. C Bryan Stork, Florida State

140. CB Bashaud Breeland, Clemson

171. TE Jake Murphy, Utah
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