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Old 05-02-2014, 06:59 PM    (permalink
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Picks like Sintim and Beckum were two I did not like, I imagne there were plans on how to use them.

I agree and I think we have been doing a better job this year.

Jennings is exactly the type of RB we need, I would not be surprised at all if we drafted one on day 2.


I am sure we did have a plan for them. I probably can even say every bust player had a plan. The issue is they showed they can't fullfil it. Dave Brown, Ron Dayne, William Joseph, Marvin Austin.
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I'm tired of them trying to make DEs into LBs. I want real LBs. Beason's a start.
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I'm tired of them trying to make DEs into LBs. I want real LBs. Beason's a start.
Totally agree.

I want to see some genuine linebackers drafted, preferably with quality coverage skills, speed and range.
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One thing that interests me is the interest in O'Brien Schofield which is very out of character to what we have traditionally done.

We don't normally prioritise LBs, yet we chased Schofield hard very early in free agency and signed him to substantial contract (2 years, $8 million) for his position, one day after the start of free agency.

I think we brought in McClain to play a similar kind of role, but he doesn't have the speed or athleticism of Schofield and is a stop gap.

I really think Anthony Barr is very much on the radar to play the same kind of role we planned for Schofield.
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Thats exactly what I've been thinking for awhile. Although I do also think it won't happen to unfold that we will have the option to take Barr at 12.
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Thats exactly what I've been thinking for awhile. Although I do also think it won't happen to unfold that we will have the option to take Barr at 12.
Much will depend on how the draft shakes down.

I think there are 12 non QB prospects that are in the mix to go in the top 12 and we would be happy with any of these.

Clowney, Mack, Robinson, Matthews, Lewan, Martin, Watkins, Evans, Beckham, Barr, Clinton-Dix and Gilbert

I would expect at least two QBs will go in the top 12, leaving three of the guys I mentioned available.

If Barr is available then I do think he is a strong option to draft.
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I could see a guy like Barr but seeing that we added McClain I don't see it as much as a pressing need to address it in the first round. I'm thinking 3rd-5th. A guy like Jackson Jeffcoat fits that type of player.
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I could see a guy like Barr but seeing that we added McClain I don't see it as much as a pressing need to address it in the first round. I'm thinking 3rd-5th. A guy like Jackson Jeffcoat fits that type of player.
possibly, but McClain is only a stop gap and Reese keeps mentioning best player over need.

Reese likes guys with high upside and Barr fits the mould.

I could see Barr competing with McClain at SLB and slotting in at RDE on passing downs.

Paysinger, Williams and Herzlich are off contract after this season and Beason and McClain after 2015.

Reese has mentioned a few times about drafting playmakers and I think Barr is potentially the biggest impact player available.

We all know that Reese loves pass rushers. Look at what we did with Osi and JPP, they sat behind starters their first year.

just a gut feeling I have.
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If we like Zach Martin as a guard, I would rather pick LSU OG Trai Turner in the 3rd round
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I think we'll be picking between Martin and Beckham if we stay at 12.
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You really think receiver is that high for us? Especially one outside of Watkins and Evans. Our least deep positions are OL and Passrusher, thats where we should look first and both are really only decent at the top.
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I think we'll be picking between Martin and Beckham if we stay at 12.
Here are the players I think are seriously in the Mix at 12

WR Mike Evans, Odell Beckham
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OL Jake Matthews (if tackles slip), Taylor Lewan, Zack Martin
LB Anthony Barr

There are so many good options, Reese would have to work at it to pick someone I didn't like as an option for us. (Mind you Eric Ebron would possibly do it)
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I'll be stunned if the pick isn't Martin (unless Matthews or maybe Evans/Watkins fall)
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Yeah Martin or Lewan are my 1st choices. If they are not there, I need to see who else is there. I do like Ebron. I am driving the wagon.
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I think Dix has to be in the mix too. I also like Buchanon in the second.

So this draft is deep at WR, so if Evans is gone, why not take Lattimer or the kid from Colorado.....Richardson in the second. My mid round dream would be Martavious Bryant. I love Beckem, but I don't think we need to go that route. Look for the Jets to try to jump ahead. Rummor has it they want to jump into the top ten.

Trade down.....and Marquis Lee?

I really do think Martin will be the guy also. Versatility and ability. He has a higher grade than Pugh did, so he could be excellent RT, and has pro bowl potential at G. Although I want Lewan, I don't see us taking him even if he is available.
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Martin will more than likely be the guy. It'll get interesting if Matthews starts to slip, however. Also will be interesting if Martin is gone.

Other than that, I'm expecting Martin and a whole **** show ton of speculation and wild and random fun and guessing for round 2, which could be a whole slew of positions
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Martin or Lewan for me.
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I'm not getting the Martin love at 12. He'll more than likely play guard here replacing Snee. Do we spend the 12th pick on a guard? Is he the best value on the board at that time? Why not trade back get an additional pick and draft Joel Bitonio to replace Snee..
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I wouldn't be surprised if CJ Mosely was a dark horse for us.

He can play any of the LB spots, he has all the tools but he also has the leadership and intangibles that Beason brought in and made such a difference.

Mosely could slide right in at WLB or SLB and is the kind of player that makes the guys around him better.

I think Mosely could have a similar kind of impact to Kuchely.

Don't forget Herzlich, Paysinger and Williams all come of contract after this season.

We did chase O'Brien Schofield very hard in free agency so I think it is on the radar.
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So what does each of your Top 12 rankings look like?
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Your predictions for the giants, go!

1) Zach Martin
2) Marcus Martin
3) caraun Reid


As much as we want and like tight end, I just don't see it happening early at all
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One of the OL or Evans if he's there.
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