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Old 09-23-2012, 11:05 PM    (permalink
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I don't agree with this whatsoever. Its stupid BB. The refs are ******* the dog and we can complain all we want about it. Will it change anything? No....but that doesn't mean we can't call them out for their absolute fuckery. If you wanna sit back and not say a gtdamn thing, knock yourself out but don't try to tell people to follow suit. They have a right to ***** and moan about the ineptitude of these refs.
Think about it. The regular refs want many millions of dollars more for doing a part-time job where they are held virtually unaccountable during the season AND now reportedly want their back pay from the games they miss once the lockout ends.

The NFL is going to say "**** that." The only way anything changes is if people stop watching. Once money is being pulled out of the NFL's pockets, they'll do something.

Since I'm not going to stop watching regardless of who is doing the officiating, I'm just going to take it and hope it ends. If not...well, I'm still going to watch.
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pats have an argument that both of their losses were due to replacement refs.... they should be 3-0
No we deserved to lose to the cardinals, we played like **** all game and got out played. We played well for the most part tonight and so did the Ravens. They get the win overall, they made the plays at the end to win it, and yes that PI call was legit on McCourty. However the officiating for both teams were horrendous, we just happened to be on the side that lost.
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pats have an argument that both of their losses were due to replacement refs.... they should be 3-0
Give me a break. Arizona straight up beat you guys.
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pats have an argument that both of their losses were due to replacement refs.... they should be 3-0
Refs in no way helped the Cardinals don't be a sore loser
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it's just unreal. like, you're the dumb sideline reporter, you're not ******* david frost. don't ask them questions about things that didn't happen on the field. i don't want to know and you come off like a sleazy national enquirer writer.
You don't think NBC would be upset if they didn't ask a question like that? Not that I disagree that it's classless as hell, I just think the blame is misdirected a little. The problem is that questions like this have become standard procedure and they're made all the time without people batting an eye. It's disgusting.

Turn on the news any given night and it's the same thing.
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i seriously want to know what the ref negotiations like. Like what are the demands and how are they so far apart?

I'm not commenting either way on the replacements, but like...what the hell is this strike and **** even about?
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I distinctly recall you talking about the poor officiating the last couple of weeks in the weekly discussion threads. And you certainly have bitched about it. If this were your bears team that just played through that **** you would be crying just like the Pats and Ravens fans were right to do. Its a message board, we come here to talk and ***** about football. If you don't like it, STOP ******* READING IN A MESSAGE BOARD. Thats an even simpler solution for you. Now I'm going to continue to sit here and ***** because *gasp, thats what happens on message boards.
You would be wrong. Beyond a sarcastic comment here or there I've pretty much kept my mouth entirely shut about the officiating since the season began.

I'm just going to stop. My argument has already been turned into a straw man as if I'm defending the replacement officials. I'm just being a realist here. The NFL has no incentive to cave into the demands of the real refs as long as people are tuning in and handing over their money.
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I don't agree with this whatsoever. Its stupid BB. The refs are ******* the dog and we can complain all we want about it. Will it change anything? No....but that doesn't mean we can't call them out for their absolute fuckery. If you wanna sit back and not say a gtdamn thing, knock yourself out but don't try to tell people to follow suit. They have a right to ***** and moan about the ineptitude of these refs.
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Think about it. The regular refs want many millions of dollars more for doing a part-time job where they are held virtually unaccountable during the season AND now reportedly want their back pay from the games they miss once the lockout ends.

The NFL is going to say "**** that." The only way anything changes is if people stop watching. Once money is being pulled out of the NFL's pockets, they'll do something.

Since I'm not going to stop watching regardless of who is doing the officiating, I'm just going to take it and hope it ends. If not...well, I'm still going to watch.
I get that but I think it is completely fine to ***** and moan about something when its clearly wrong. Its not going to change anything but its a way to vent frustration.
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You don't think NBC would be upset if they didn't ask a question like that? Not that I disagree that it's classless as hell, I just think the blame is misdirected a little. The problem is that questions like this have become standard procedure and they're made all the time without people batting an eye. It's disgusting.

Turn on the news any given night and it's the same thing.
oh it's 100% on NBC.
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i seriously want to know what the ref negotiations like. Like what are the demands and how are they so far apart?

I'm not commenting either way on the replacements, but like...what the hell is this strike and **** even about?
$40-$70 million dollars, refs want their back pay for games missed this season, and they want continued no-accountability as they shot down the NFL's idea of having a "bench" of refs to pull from whenever a ref is struggling during the season.

I can provide links if need be.
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$40-$70 million dollars, refs want their back pay for games missed this season, and they want continued no-accountability as they shot down the NFL's idea of having a "bench" of refs to pull from whenever a ref is struggling during the season.

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jeebus. How could that escalate so quickly? And be soooo far apart?
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You would be wrong. Beyond a sarcastic comment here or there I've pretty much kept my mouth entirely shut about the officiating since the season began.

I'm just going to stop. My argument has already been turned into a straw man as if I'm defending the replacement officials. I'm just being a realist here. The NFL has no incentive to cave into the demands of the real refs as long as people are tuning in and handing over their money.
And never once have I said anything about the NFL having to cave to officials tonight. But I have every damn right to sit here and talk about it, or ***** about it. As does anyone else, and if it bugs you that much stop coming in here and reading what people are posting. You not mentioning the poor officiating isn't somehow making it go away. But good for you for being so high and mighty of not mentioning how terrible the officiating has been this weekend. Thats helped much more so.
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A big part of the problem is that the real refs THINK that the continued failures of the replacement refs are helping their cause, so they're digging in deeper.

But, as I've said, the NFL has no incentive to bring them back until money is lost. People are still watching, advertisers are still buying air time...to them, it's business as usual.
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$40-$70 million dollars, refs want their back pay for games missed this season, and they want continued no-accountability as they shot down the NFL's idea of having a "bench" of refs to pull from whenever a ref is struggling during the season.

I can provide links if need be.
I like the NFL's idea of bench refs, truthfully. But the money is a fraction of the profits the NFL sees every year, they need to stop being greedy pricks.
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Then shut the **** up about it. That goes for everyone. Want to ***** about the refs? Say they're screwing your team? Turn off the games. Don't watch. Otherwise, the NFL has no incentive to change anything.
Absolutely agree. I have watched my last NFL game. The owners, including Robert Kraft, have displayed a level of greed that I never imagined. I can't even put in to words the disgust I have for what just happened on national television.

I don't think I even give a **** if they come to an agreement tomorrow, due to the simple fact they allowed this to happen.

I stopped watching the MLB and the NBA due to the same reasons. This means I never have to watch ESPN ever again which is absolutely fantastic.

I understand if others won't be able to do the same thing, but honestly take a minute or two and think about what exactly happened.
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And never once have I said anything about the NFL having to cave to officials tonight. But I have every damn right to sit here and talk about it, or ***** about it. As does anyone else, and if it bugs you that much stop coming in here and reading what people are posting.
It's not the talking about it, it's the irrational rage-mode way you're going about it. If the Patriots won tonight, you'd be off doing who knows what and I'd be arguing with a Ravens fan right now.

Read my last couple of posts about the money demands and why the NFL probably doesn't see this as a problem right now.
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This season is so damn weird right now
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