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Old 03-14-2014, 04:56 PM    (permalink
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Which first round prospect do you think is most likely to be a bust?

I'm going to go with Sammy Watkins IMHO Watkins has a highest bust factor. I'm pretty sure I read the guy led the NCAA in % of catches behind the line of scrimmage. You're not going to be a star receiver in the NFL running quick hitches and screens and flares all the time.
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Blake Bortles and it isn't even close.
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Manziel would be my choice.
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Manziel. I'd put Bortles and Barr there, too.
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All of the QBs. They will all get pushed up the boards and none of them are sure things.

I don't see how Bortles has any more bust potential than Manziel, Derek Carr, or even Bridgewater. Of all of them its Manziel for me. Will have the most hype and has the most unorthodox game. While he has some of the best film out there, he also has some of the worst.
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Kelvin Benjamin, Marqise Lee.
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Derek Carr and Ra'Shede Hageman seem like obvious choices. Other than that, I'd say Xavier Su'a-Filo, Kony Ealy, Stephon Tuitt, Anthony Barr, and Justin Gilbert have a considerable way to go before they'd be good players. That's not to say they'll all fail, but the fact that they're considered first-round picks seems to be more about people using their imagination to project them instead of grading them based on what they're doing right now.
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Derek Carr and Ra'Shede Hageman seem like obvious choices. Other than that, I'd say Xavier Su'a-Filo, Kony Ealy, Stephon Tuitt, Anthony Barr, and Justin Gilbert have a considerable way to go before they'd be good players. That's not to say they'll all fail, but the fact that they're considered first-round picks seems to be more about people using their imagination to project them instead of grading them based on what they're doing right now.
I'd say Su'a-Filo, Barr and Gilbert are far more likely to be All Pros than busts.

I can accept that there are legitimate concerns about Carr, Hageman, Ealy, and Tuitt, but I just don't see your argument for the above 3.
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Bortles is a good one. I like him but he isn't as far along as people would like to think. He still needs to develop and in the wrong situation he could bust pretty easy.

Manziel is an obvious one. If he busts it will be obvious his size/play style/character was flawed in hindsight. He has the IT factor but he also just might not fit the nfl well.
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Manziel by a mile.
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See I don't really think so. Even if he's lazy...he's still so talented that he'll hang around the NFL and probably always be highly regarded due to the flashes he'll show. Much like Julius Peppers. Sometimes he's not interested and doesn't play well. When he turns it on though he can be really good so he's been considered a top DE for most of his career.
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See I don't really think so. Even if he's lazy...he's still so talented that he'll hang around the NFL and probably always be highly regarded due to the flashes he'll show. Much like Julius Peppers. Sometimes he's not interested and doesn't play well. When he turns it on though he can be really good so he's been considered a top DE for most of his career.
That's why the potential bust could be so great. He's the guy with the highest ceiling. So many others are known gambles. I looked at it as "biggest", more than "likeliest" potential bust. Although, personally, I'd still put him in a category of likeliest.
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That's why the potential bust could be so great. He's the guy with the highest ceiling. So many others are known gambles. I looked at it as "biggest", more than "likeliest" potential bust. Although, personally, I'd still put him in a category of likeliest.
In all likelihood, even if Clowney busts, he's still going to be a starter for 8+ years. Manziel, on the other hand, could easily be out of the league in 3 years.
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In all likelihood, even if Clowney busts, he's still going to be a starter for 8+ years. Manziel, on the other hand, could easily be out of the league in 3 years.
I never call a starter a bust, just because you don't reach your ceiling isn't enough reason to use that label. A bust is somebody like Russell or Leaf, who came in and quickly showed they were never going to be NFL starters. There is about a 3 year window before the term can be officially used, because some prospects need time to adjust. It took Eli 4 years to breakout, plenty were calling him a bust prematurely.
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I'm going to go with Sammy Watkins IMHO Watkins has a highest bust factor. I'm pretty sure I read the guy led the NCAA in % of catches behind the line of scrimmage. You're not going to be a star receiver in the NFL running quick hitches and screens and flares all the time.
It feels like that's all Welker or Crabtree ever did in college
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A QB will always be the answer. With a QB you either hit or miss. You can't use a QB as a rotational player or slide him inside to guard.
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The biggest "bust" potential is always the guy with the most potential. That's Clowney.
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Manziel's not going to bust, you idiots. Will somebody please sig-quote me on this?
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I don't necessarily disagree but I'll do it for the **** of it
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