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Old 06-04-2014, 03:01 PM    (permalink
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Colin Kaeprnick's 6-year deal is worth $110+ million, per sources. Heavy guarantees, too. Record guarantees.
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Lets see how the contract actually breaks down before freaking out.

Thats apparently the going rate for QBs now days.
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It's the heavy guarantees part people should freak over, not the $100 million.
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Record 61 million guaranteed

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To be specific, the Kaepernick 6-year extension includes $61M guaranteed, the highest ever.
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Jesus christ.
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Yeah that 61 million guaranteed is a ton for a guy with questionable character (I know, I know) and 23 career starts.

That said, at the going rate, someone would have given him that.
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$61 million guaranteed wa wa wee wa
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If the guaranteed money is through the first three seasons then it wouldn't be terrible because they'd have flexibility on the back end.
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Yeah that 61 million guaranteed is a ton for a guy with questionable character (I know, I know) and 23 career starts.

That said, at the going rate, someone would have given him that.
He's arrogant and can come off as a dick sometimes, but outside of that Miami incident (where all the news thats come out has absolved him of any wrongdoing), i haven't heard of any off-field concerns.

If the contract is 110/6, then thats 18.3M a year, which is the going rate for QB's. It can be "upto" 126 but i guess there's some unattainable incentives he'll have to hit.

There's no excuse for Kaep this year. He's got the talent, he's got the coach, he's got his contract. He needs to have a great year, because i'm a little weary of giving a guy who has some obvious flaws (staring at his first read, pocket presence, accuracy) and is very unproven a huge deal.
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With that kind of money tied up in Kaep, even with the steadily rising salary cap, I think this will be the last year in San Fran for quite a few of their core veterans. Gore, Boldin, and Justin Smith immediately come to mind.

As a lot of teams are finding out, it becomes hard to fill out the rest of your team when you've got that much tied up in the QB.
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One day, some team is going to have the balls to let a qb walk bc he's not worth the money.

One day.

Somebody is gonna have to have huge balls to do it, but one day it's gonna happen.
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I'd laugh, but the Chiefs are about to pay Alex Smith $15m a year and I don't want to get it back ten fold when it happens.

I hope it works out for you 49er bros.
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With that kind of money tied up in Kaep, even with the steadily rising salary cap, I think this will be the last year in San Fran for quite a few of their core veterans. Gore, Boldin, and Justin Smith immediately come to mind.

As a lot of teams are finding out, it becomes hard to fill out the rest of your team when you've got that much tied up in the QB.
Maybe this is hearsay, but I think Gore should be let go this year. He's declined and has a 6.5 million dollar cap charge, none of which is guaranteed. Only thing is the RB's we have are unproven. But there's a lot of potential with Hyde and Lattimore, not to mention Hunter (who's more of a steady backup than anything).

Justin Smith signed a below market extension a couple of years ago. Regardless, its time for Tank Carradine to make an impact.

Boldin's signed for 2 years. I think he stays.

I do think this is the end of the line for Mike Iupati and Michael Crabtree though. Both players are in the last year of their deals.
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With that kind of money tied up in Kaep, even with the steadily rising salary cap, I think this will be the last year in San Fran for quite a few of their core veterans. Gore, Boldin, and Justin Smith immediately come to mind.

As a lot of teams are finding out, it becomes hard to fill out the rest of your team when you've got that much tied up in the QB.
Gore is old and will likely be supplanted as the starter this year. Heck, I wouldn't be shocked if he is cut before the season to save $6 million. Boldin's cap number is pretty low ($2.1 million) in 2016, 2017, and 2018. And how effective will he be at 36 anyway?
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Sign Iupati Reese.

Make me a happy camper and sign Iupati after this season
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61M for a total of 31 pass td's in his brief starting career...
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I'm for raising the minimum wage so can't begrudge someone getting paid.

Seattle needs to get Wilson signed sooner than later.
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One day.

Somebody is gonna have to have huge balls to do it, but one day it's gonna happen.
I'm trying to think of teams that might so it? The Bengals or Chiefs should probably do that. Maybe when Ryan's next deal expires? He'll be 32 and if he still hasn't led them to at least a Super Bowl berth, I could see them cutting him loose. But my guess is RGIII.
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I'm trying to think of teams that might so it? The Bengals or Chiefs should probably do that. Maybe when Ryan's next deal expires? He'll be 32 and if he still hasn't led them to at least a Super Bowl berth, I could see them cutting him loose. But my guess is RGIII.
Bengals. Mike Brown is cheap as hell and Dalton sucks. If he doesn't do it no one will :(
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Knowing the Bengals though, Mike Brown won't be cheap when he should be and gives Dalton 18 mill.

Bc...well...bc Bengals.
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You can't sign a young veteran starting QB to a cheap long term deal in the NFL.
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They can't negotiate until after the season.
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Nice. People are too quick to judge on Kaep. I knew he was a project from the beginning. He's got plenty of time to make adjustments and improve.

Hell, his guaranteed money is pretty much exactly what they paid Alex Smith.

And the cap is going up a ton the next few years.
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As a lot of teams are finding out, it becomes hard to fill out the rest of your team when you've got that much tied up in the QB.
It also is hard to compete without a QB. They area scarce commodity and are paid that way. A guy with 1.5 years of game experience just got paid more that Peyton Manning.

Iupati is gone and probably Crab in the near future. 49ers got more guards in the draft and they are cheaper.

Dalton might be the guy who a team refuses to pay.
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he probably doesn't deserve the most guaranteed money...
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