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Old 03-04-2013, 04:28 PM    (permalink
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i didn't say he would sit the bench i said a diff position
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i didn't say he would sit the bench i said a diff position
Is he gunna replace a 2nd round pick or a 3rd round pick at the G spots?
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Is he gunna replace a 2nd round pick or a 3rd round pick at the G spots?
Those guys have no ties to the new regime... but i'll admit it this move confuses me. I don't have an answer for you. I guess Geno is as good a guess as any, cause none of it makes sense. WE do know that teams franchise tagging players isn't always a sign they want them long term.
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is there any move that makes sense for them anymore? i feel like no matter which way they turn here it doesnt make a ton of sense.

OT - let a good proven veteran entering his prime leave for an unproven rookie? no

WR - who? no Calvin in this class and they just resigned bowe. no way

RB - who? and why? just plain no.

QB - why invest that much in ASmith (whos still young, entering his prime years) then draft a QB 1/1? why not save those picks and rebuild around that 1/1 qb?

DL - a 3-4 Dlineman at 1? who? there is no superstar passrusher with the build to play 3-4 line in this draft like a JJ watt type guy. and having already made major investments in the Dline in the past couple years, it would be criticized heavily. no real upside to this pick.

LB - they have good pass rushers and are set inside. so no.

DB - kinda makes sense but they have good corners as is.
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is there any move that makes sense for them anymore? i feel like no matter which way they turn here it doesnt make a ton of sense.
if we take away need for a second and just look at grades, it's entirely possible that the best OT(s) in this class are graded higher than the best QB (and CB and DL). Obviously teams don't take need out of the equation when they draft. But the Chiefs will have graded all he prospects and it's possible that Joeckel has their highest grade.
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Is he gunna replace a 2nd round pick or a 3rd round pick at the G spots?
Uh...phrasing?
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I think they go with whoever they have as their top LT and move Albert inside. Other than that, no other player is worthy of #1
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I think they go with whoever tey have as their top LT and move Albert inside. Other than that, no other player is worthy of #1
Christ, it's like once a day with this. Albert isn't moving inside. He hasn't played guard in over 5 years. He isn't playing guard in the NFL. Period. No way.
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he was such an unbelievable guard prospect too



so anyway, could the pick be milliner? im sure andy would like to trade but does anyone really want it?
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Joe Thomas is a pretty good tackle. I think the Browns should move him inside and draft Eric Fisher, though.
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If he signs his tender they can trade him to a team that wants to sign him long term. That's.....something.
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Milliner is probably the only pick that makes sense at this point. I'm really confused as to what the Chiefs are doing.
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if OT was always the pick and we signed Bowe, then what is Alberts value to a LT needy team? is he worth Chicagos 1st? st louis is probably in that mix to. whats he worth?
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if OT was always the pick and we signed Bowe, then what is Alberts value to a LT needy team? is he worth Chicagos 1st? st louis is probably in that mix to. whats he worth?
I think he could get Kansas City a second round pick back, but when you factor in the necessary money for an extension, a 1st round pick might be too rich.
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I would take no less than a 2nd for Albert. That said I hope they just keep him.
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If Brandon Albert doesn't get traded, this pick is probably going to end up really weird and probably a reach so anyone who said Geno wasn't worth it will feel pretty dumb about that.

Almost any other pick other then a Tackle or QB will be a reach and the ones that do make sense don't fit. Though if they take a 3-4 DE I will have a lot of fun talking about how they love to take 3-4 Ends in the top 10 of the draft every year.


If Albert is not traded, there is no place for Joeckel or Fisher because Albert isn't playing Guard and they have some solid Guards anyway. I'm almost ready to cross them off but I was leaning Fisher before today.
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Albert has no interest in changing positions

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Moving him inside is an asinine suggestion. He's going to be paid like a LT, so he's going to play LT. I don't know why this has to keep being said.
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if OT was always the pick and we signed Bowe, then what is Alberts value to a LT needy team? is he worth Chicagos 1st? st louis is probably in that mix to. whats he worth?
Chicago can't afford to sign him and has numerous holes that #1 pick is needed for. Chicago will not acquire any "name" veterans this offseason.
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Moving him inside is an asinine suggestion. He's going to be paid like a LT, so he's going to play LT. I don't know why this has to keep being said.
And they spent a 2nd round pick on Hudson in 2011 and Allen in 2012. It would be stupid to just push aside assets like that who are highly invested in and have played well. Seriously, the offensive line for KC is really solid across the board as is, this would be a great draft to add an elite TE or elite WR across from Bowe if one was good enough for top 10 consideration.
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Chicago can't afford to sign him and has numerous holes that #1 pick is needed for. Chicago will not acquire any "name" veterans this offseason.
Are you guys going to inquire about Jake Long or more then likely pass? I don't know of the cap situation, I just figured Albert or Long would definately be in Chicago when it came down to it, then draft Fluker and you've got a good start to repairing the line.
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Are you guys going to inquire about Jake Long or more then likely pass? I don't know of the cap situation, I just figured Albert or Long would definately be in Chicago when it came down to it, then draft Fluker and you've got a good start to repairing the line.
The problem with Long is that last season he was only as good as Webb. Guessing he gets a premium contract, too, so he's out. Chicago has like half of its starters (mostly on the D side) going into free agency next season and the cap is already tight before re-signing them. Peppers & Forte are going to get cut next offseason, too.

This offseason, I think we shop the undervalued "solid" guys whose names don't have marquee value. The Geoff Schwartz / King Dunlap / Matt Slauson / Anthony Fasano / Winston Justice types. I expect our draft to be very defense-heavy and our free agency to be those "boring" types on offense, shocking all of the "experts."

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Milliner is probably the only pick that makes sense at this point. I'm really confused as to what the Chiefs are doing.
Milliner at #1 would be awful. How is that the only pick that makes sense?
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Milliner at #1 would be awful. How is that the only pick that makes sense?
Not as awful as spending the #1 pick on a 3-4 DE. Not as awful as using it on any of the WR's, RB's, OLmen, DLmen and LBers available.

IMO i'd still go with Geno Smith, but that doesn't make sense because you just traded possibly two 2nd round picks on Alex Smith. If you do pick Geno, that Alex Smith trade is absolutely disgusting.

Nothing makes sense for the Chiefs. Whoever they pick they are picking someone they shouldn't be picking.

Who do you think makes more sense?
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