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Old 02-06-2013, 04:42 PM    (permalink
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I wanna know who Rams want if Warmack is off the board.
For me, it's a toss up between Kenny Vaccaro, Jonathan Cooper, Lane Johnson, or the top rated pass catcher. But Warmack seems like such a great fit.
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Raiders take Jarvis Jones or trade down.

Screw it. They do both...just not in that order.
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Really hard to predict what the Panthers will do in the first round. New GM, and lots of potential big name departures. The obvious needs as of now are DT and OL, but WR and CB are both potentially in play.

Preferably, I'd like to see the Panthers select one of Patterson, Hankins, Je. Williams or Warmack. Warmack and Patterson fit needs, but would be selected primarily because of sheer talent. Hankins or Je. Williams would finally give us a nose tackle.
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It's February, so you can't really expect me to know for the Bears at this point. Obviously Joeckel/Fisher/Johnson is ideal, but looking pretty unlikely. Fluker probably tops my realistic wishlist, with Ziggy Ansah and Arthur Brown both up there based less on need and more on how awesome they both are. I'm also hoping a TE separates himself from the pack at the combine. Ertz, Eifert, Escobar and Kelce could all realistically enter the discussion.
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Since Coach Pagano wants his defense to resemble the Ravens, I could see them targeting DT Johnathon Hankins round 1. He could play our Haloti Ngata role. What are your thoughts?

If he is gone maybe a future #1 WR for Luck would be benefitial. Someone like Keenan Allen or Cordarrelle Patterson.
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Since Coach Pagano wants his defense to resemble the Ravens, I could see them targeting DT Johnathon Hankins round 1. He could play our Haloti Ngata role. What are your thoughts?

If he is gone maybe a future #1 WR for Luck would be benefitial. Someone like Keenan Allen or Cordarrelle Patterson.
How were your corners other than Vontae? A corner like Xavier Rhodes or Johnthan Banks makes a lot of sense to me.
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It's February, so you can't really expect me to know for the Bears at this point. Obviously Joeckel/Fisher/Johnson is ideal, but looking pretty unlikely. Fluker probably tops my realistic wishlist, with Ziggy Ansah and Arthur Brown both up there based less on need and more on how awesome they both are. I'm also hoping a TE separates himself from the pack at the combine. Ertz, Eifert, Escobar and Kelce could all realistically enter the discussion.
Yeah, I'm thinking Fluker too. If you don't go Fluker, Johnson, or another top rated OL in the 1st, you're probably stuck hoping for Warford. If he's not there, you're looking at a lineman at 50 that may not be good enough to start Day 1.

As for TE, no reason to pick one at 20. I do like all 4 of those guys, but unless 1 of them runs a sub 4.6 in the 40, the Bears can wait on the position. There hasn't been more than 3 TEs taken in the top 50 since 1997. So, one of those 4 will most certainly be there in the 2nd.
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#16- Keenan Allen
#22- DJ Fluker
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Yeah, I'm thinking Fluker too. If you don't go Fluker, Johnson, or another top rated OL in the 1st, you're probably stuck hoping for Warford. If he's not there, you're looking at a lineman at 50 that may not be good enough to start Day 1.

As for TE, no reason to pick one at 20. I do like all 4 of those guys, but unless 1 of them runs a sub 4.6 in the 40, the Bears can wait on the position. There hasn't been more than 3 TEs taken in the top 50 since 1997. So, one of those 4 will most certainly be there in the 2nd.
I'm probably a bigger believer in learning things from the combine than most on here, so as far as TE's go, if there's a guy that can separate himself there, I'm not opposed to taking one at #20. Those 40s are gonna be big, and I'm particularly interested in Eifert's agility drills. I think as far as individual positions go, TE might be the biggest need (though obviously OL as a whole surpasses that).

Ideally we grab Jared Cook and a LT in free agency and give ourselves a lot of flexibility with that pick.
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I really think Jeff Fisher takes Eddie Lacy. Not my team, but I love the fit.

EDIT: want to add a couple.

Xavier Rhodes to the 49ers. They need some DBs who can play man or they'll continue to get picked apart when their pass rush isn't generating pressure from the unsustainable superhuman performance of an aging and now injured Justin Smith.

Margus Hunt to the Colts. He'd immediately be their most physically talented defender.

DeAndre Hopkins to the Patriots. I don't know what it is about this one. I just feel like he's the smooth type of WR Belichick likes. He can get deep and has potential to be a really good one. And he's ready to make an impact right away. Somewhere between Brandon Lloyd and A.J. Green in terms of pure talent. Just a hunch (I can see Patton too). I absolutely see the Pats drafting (or signing) a legitimate outside WR threat after failing with Chad Johnson and Lloyd the past two years and always being so bad they bring back Dinosaur Branch.

EDIT 2: Didn't do Seattle.

I'd love to either trade the first (or preferably 2nd) for Mr. Harvin. If not...

1) Cordarrelle Patterson (long shot)
2) Tavon Austin
3) Tyler Eifert
4) DeAndre Hopkins
5) D.J. Fluker

If we don't go WR in the first or via FA/trade I'd love Patton, Woods, or Dobson in the 2nd.

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I'm probably a bigger believer in learning things from the combine than most on here, so as far as TE's go, if there's a guy that can separate himself there, I'm not opposed to taking one at #20. Those 40s are gonna be big, and I'm particularly interested in Eifert's agility drills. I think as far as individual positions go, TE might be the biggest need (though obviously OL as a whole surpasses that).

Ideally we grab Jared Cook and a LT in free agency and give ourselves a lot of flexibility with that pick.
Yeah, I love the thought of having a LT and TE in the fold before draft day. I also like the thought of a guy Fluker at LG next to a good, veteran LT. Then that gives the Bears the ability to move positions like LB, CB, and WR up on the list of needs.
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I'm probably a bigger believer in learning things from the combine than most on here, so as far as TE's go, if there's a guy that can separate himself there, I'm not opposed to taking one at #20. Those 40s are gonna be big, and I'm particularly interested in Eifert's agility drills. I think as far as individual positions go, TE might be the biggest need (though obviously OL as a whole surpasses that).

Ideally we grab Jared Cook and a LT in free agency and give ourselves a lot of flexibility with that pick.
I used to be one of those "the combine is overrated" type of guys but as I learned more about scouting I learned how important it is. The combine is just as important as the tape. Athletic ability translates to the NFL, skill can be learned.
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How were your corners other than Vontae? A corner like Xavier Rhodes or Johnthan Banks makes a lot of sense to me.
Corner is another big need outside of Vontae but there are some free agents I think we may target. If we shy away from free agency for CBs though, I completely agree that Rhodes could be the pick.
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i really hate dion jordan as a prospect so given my track record he will be a saint for sure
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Agreed 100%
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1. Star Lotulelei
2. Luke Joeckel
3. Demontre Moore
4. Jarvis Jones
5. Dee Milliner
6. *Trade Down* Chance Warmack

In the 2nd, we try for Matt Elam.
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