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Old 02-22-2013, 11:03 PM    (permalink
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Not trying to take anything away from Calvin, but let's be real here.. He got most of his yards in garbage time when the Lions were getting destroyed every game and had to pass. If Jerry Rice wasn't on such a great team that blew teams out midway through the 3rd quarter, I bet you his stats would be padded way more but they weren't, because your not going to keep passing when your up by a lot. So congrats to him and all but lets ease up on the G.O.A.T talk..
Do you enjoy being wrong all the time? Do you realize the Lions lost A LOT of close games? And what P-L said up there as well. The concussion thing was actually pretty obvious early on, after Chad Greenway's hit very early in the season. PS **** Chad Greenway.
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I made this thread at the end of last season.

I just wanted to bump it to warn and reiterate to San Fran fans.....Jerry's days are numbered


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Prime Randy Moss was better than both of them so who cares.

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I made this thread at the end of last season.

I just wanted to bump it to warn and reiterate to San Fran fans.....Jerry's days are numbered


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Hahahahahahaha. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. You're always worth a laugh BallerT.

I guess Johnson has a chance if the Lions keep passing like crazy though and force feeding.
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Prime Randy Moss was better than both of them so who cares.

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Randy Moss choked in big games. Can people please take a break from jock gobbling his overrated ass.
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Calvin gotta do it in the playoffs to challenge Jerry for GOAT status, but yea hes definitely making a case for himself with some of these performances. And I dont think the argument of him being force-fed the ball has a lot of substance, nobody else could produce like him in that offense. Plus, its easy to see what his presence means for guys like Reggie Bush and Joique Bell, who are both having excellent years.
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He's also a very easy person to root for so that doesn't hurt.
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Calvin gotta do it in the playoffs to challenge Jerry for GOAT status, but yea hes definitely making a case for himself with some of these performances. And I dont think the argument of him being force-fed the ball has a lot of substance, nobody else could produce like him in that offense. Plus, its easy to see what his presence means for guys like Reggie Bush and Joique Bell, who are both having excellent years.
I'm just saying he's getting a lot of opportunities. The Lions have led the league in passing attempts the last two seasons. Over 600 times one year and over 700 times the next. I think Stafford broke his own record in back to back seasons in that regard. Calvin also plays in an era where the passing game has a lot more leverage compared to when Rice played where defensive backs could actually take your head off without having to worry about getting fined or getting a penalty. That being said, I think if Johnson was in Rice's place during that same time period he probably would have accomplished the same things.

Calvin has a long way to go to live up that Jerry's resume. I'm sure he'll get close. Probably wont' get three Super Bowl rings though.
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I know this thread is mostly just jokes, but I seriously think Jerry Rice will always be considered the best ever. Even if someone comes along and does something equally as impressive, there will always be the excuse that Jerry did it in a different era, when it was tougher all around. And since it has been almost a decade since he last played and STILL no one has really challenged his career, his legend continues to grow. It will always feel like "Yea, this current player is good but you should have seen Jerry Rice back in the day".
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Rice will be hard to surpass just Because of his longevity. Few player play that long, let alone with 2 HoF QBs. Guys have matched his ability but not even close to his career.
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Serious question - Did Rice face the bracket coverages that Calvin faces every week?
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As much as I love Calvin, Randy Moss is the best pure talent I've ever seen at that position.

Calvin may well be the better when it's all said and done though. I didn't get to see young Randy every game(although I saw plenty, part of the reason I fell in love with the game even), but Calvin is a much more well rounded receiver from what I've seen.
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I just wanted to bump it to warn and reiterate to San Fran fans.....Jerry's days are numbered


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I love Calvin but... Soon?

He's got 1000 catches. 14000 yards. 130 some odd TDs to go. Jerry also had nearly 1000 yards rushing and 10 TDs to boot.

Easy, right?

Best of luck to him. It will be fun watching him try and get there.
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As much as I love Calvin, Randy Moss is the best pure talent I've ever seen at that position.

Calvin may well be the better when it's all said and done though. I didn't get to see young Randy every game(although I saw plenty, part of the reason I fell in love with the game even), but Calvin is a much more well rounded receiver from what I've seen.
I don't really buy that. Johnson is bigger, stronger, and just as fast. I don't know of one area where Moss is better than Calvin and then add in that Moss was a lollygagger pretty often, and I think Johnson is a better player.
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Brilliant letting one of Scott Pioli's henchmen have his own team to ruin.  One of the premier GM jobs in the NFL and it gets handed to a stupid **** who makes three facepalm moves for every good one.  Awesome.  Just like handing a new Mercedes to a 16 year old girl who's already been in three wrecks. 
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I'm just saying he's getting a lot of opportunities. The Lions have led the league in passing attempts the last two seasons. Over 600 times one year and over 700 times the next. I think Stafford broke his own record in back to back seasons in that regard. Calvin also plays in an era where the passing game has a lot more leverage compared to when Rice played where defensive backs could actually take your head off without having to worry about getting fined or getting a penalty. That being said, I think if Johnson was in Rice's place during that same time period he probably would have accomplished the same things.

Calvin has a long way to go to live up that Jerry's resume. I'm sure he'll get close. Probably wont' get three Super Bowl rings though.
Yes, but havent you thought about the fact that the reason they run the offense they do is because they have Calvin Johnson. Randy Moss and Jerry Rice are the only receivers in my lifetime that you could base an entire offense off feeding them the ball and have it work. And I think you are underestimating how much Jerry Rice got the ball in his offense. You gotta remember he played in the early day WCO when the 5-yard slant was used instead of the 5-yard run, and it wouldnt have worked with many other WRs. You also have to consider the era calvin plays in. its the passing era. Lots of teams are abandoning their run game and running a shotgun offense. The Lions are the most pass-happy team out there, but its not a coincidence that they have the best WR in the game.
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Rice is the greatest of all time. And to think that he was a 4.6 guy with great hands and also wasn't very big. 6 foot 1 and 200 pounds. The numbers he put up are flat out nuts.

Moss to me was that first WR you could say OMG to the gifts that god gave him. To be able to run and have the hand eye to come down with some of those balls. But he never went over the middle.

Calvin is right now unstoppable. He has all the tools to become the greatest. Has the jump skills of Moss and will go over the middle like Jerry. One thing tho is he's looking a little big. He could be 250ish. Which in the long run might run him down.
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