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Old 06-24-2013, 10:02 PM    (permalink
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Well, he's better than Shabazz.
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Lots of rumors about the Bulls trying to move up. Doubt anything comes of it, but it's certainly interesting.
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Who's gonna fall to 24? Every year guys drop like rocks.
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Who's gonna fall to 24? Every year guys drop like rocks.
Hopefully Tony Mitchell is the pick at 24.
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I like Snell I think. I highly doubt Larkin is there but that would be amazing.
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Who's gonna fall to 24? Every year guys drop like rocks.


Maybe MCW or Kelly Olynyk?

Edit- Not for the Knicks necessarily, just realized that's what you meant.
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And I like Crabbe and Schroeder...

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CJ McCollum?
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You like Vuc's potential to develop defensively? Eek. I'm ok with what he does now, but I wouldn't expect him to dramatically improve.

I'm not Noel's biggest fan. I have him #3 on my board for us (w/out Bledsoe) and #2 (w/Bledsoe). But I realize if we want to beat teams it needs to start with defense inside. Perimeter defense is "nice to have", but interior defense is "must have". It's just his damn injury history and frame that needs to pack on at least a good 30 pounds that worries me.

If we end up with this for 2013, I'm good.

PG Eric Bledsoe
SG Moe Harkless
SF Tobias Harris
PF Nerlens Noel
C Nikola Vucevic

Still won't win a lot of games, but 2014 is definite tank season all over again.

Marcus Smart who can play PG or SG would then be my ideal pick in 2014. He can play next to Bledsoe and make up for the lack of playmaking for others that Bledsoe doesn't do, and allow Harkless to spend time between SG and SF.
Harkless at the 2 is just not a long term option, imo. I'm really hoping Harris carves his way at the 4. Because Harkless is a SF through and through. But Harris has got so much potential...I just hope he finds his role there. Cause I would like to keep both in the long run of things. I'm dead set into a 2 guard with that 2nd pick. And Oladipo fits the bill.

If we take Noel...we're def seeing early lottery again next year, obviously. Granted, if we take Oladipo we're not going to be better over night either, though. haha. Ideally...I'm trading for Bledsoe...drafting Oladipo. Letting these guys play their "primary" positions at the moment...Harkless at 3 ; Harris at 4, Vuc at 5 and seeing what works and what doesn't. I honestly love the rebuilding process...we were lucky enough to get some nice pieces in those three...I'd like to see us keep all three in the lineup for a little while at least.

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I love CJ...I guarantee Ive seen him more than anyone here. The campus is right around the block and their rivals with my homer local Lafayette Leopards. Funny enough, I've been calling him a Steph Curry starter kit for years. Said it a bunch of times on here, even. Devastated when he went down. lol.
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Old 06-25-2013, 03:36 AM    (permalink
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-Ford is saying the Magic want Noel if he is there.

-Apparently the Cavs offered #1 and #19 for LMA and were turned down.
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that's cus they are trading #10 for Gortat

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-Apparently the Cavs offered #1 and #19 for LMA and were turned down.
The Blazers are idiots if that's true.
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...i don't get you sometimes, Aldridge >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noel/Oladipo
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I heard they were shopping the selection for multiple players and future picks. I doubt all they wanted was LMA under the assumption they even talked to Portland.

Just ******* draft Noel. Christ.
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...i don't get you sometimes, Aldridge >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Noel/Oladipo
Aldridge might be the most overrated player in the NBA. He's lethal in the post, but he takes more long jumpers than anyone in the NBA (ANYONE) for no reason at all. He's a mediocre rebounder, a mediocre passer, a meh defender, etc.
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I heard they were shopping the selection for multiple players and future picks. I doubt all they wanted was LMA under the assumption they even talked to Portland.

Just ******* draft Noel. Christ.
Noel is an athletic skinny tall guy that has no shot. He can play defense, but he is far too small to bang down inside against stout NBA centers and forwards.

He will be a wasted pick, the Cavs need a true center, or a power forward, or whatever, just not giant toothpick that will crumple down low. I just don't see how the kid could play in the paint for a whole season in the NBA. And, again, he has no shot. None.
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Funny thing about 19 year olds is that they can grow and develop. NBA teams don't draft players expecting them to be finished products.

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He could shoot. And also, he was still twice as stout as Noel. And also, also, he didn't really start shining until the end of his first contract. Not the kind of player you need in Cleveland.
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He could shoot. And also, he was still twice as stout as Noel. And also, also, he didn't really start shining until the end of his first contract. Not the kind of player you need in Cleveland.
Not when he came into the league. If Noel stays healthy, I see him becoming a KG like player when KG was in his prime. He is THAT good.
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Maybe MCW or Kelly Olynyk?

Edit- Not for the Knicks necessarily, just realized that's what you meant.
I want him badly on the Mavs but the more I read the more it seems like he may go top 10. Hopefully we let the D12 and CP3 rumors go to bed and we just take MCW and maybe Al Jefferson and call it a day.
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Not when he came into the league. If Noel stays healthy, I see him becoming a KG like player when KG was in his prime. He is THAT good.
If you look at stats (since I won't pretend I remember KG's rookie year), Garnett shot a considerably better percentage from the line and even took some threes. I just don't think Noel will ever become what KG did offensively.
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I want him badly on the Mavs but the more I read the more it seems like he may go top 10. Hopefully we let the D12 and CP3 rumors go to bed and we just take MCW and maybe Al Jefferson and call it a day.
CP3 is staying, and if Dwight does go anywhere, and that's a big if, it's ATL or HOU. So I have resigned my optimism on those two. Best case scenario for us would be some combination of Jarret Jack, Jerryd Bayless, Dalembert, Pek, etc. I don't know what Cuban can pull off this summer to put this team into contention.
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Not when he came into the league. If Noel stays healthy, I see him becoming a KG like player when KG was in his prime. He is THAT good.
No way he becomes a KG like shooter within the first contract. That's all that matters to the team that drafts him.

His college game was 100% down low. He will be massacred down low in the NBA. He is 6'11" 205lbs.
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