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Old 03-30-2013, 10:22 AM    (permalink
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- Bucs trade 2013 2nd round pick, 6th round pick, Blount, and conditional 2014 2nd round pick that escalates to 1st to NY JEts for Darrell Revis.

- Kansas City Trades Brandon Albert to Miami for their 2nd round pick and 4th round pick.

- Dallas trades 1st round and 2nd round pick to San Diego for 11th overall

- San Fransisco trades 1st round pick, 2nd via KC and 3rd to Tampa for 13th overall and 6th round pick in 2014.

-Philadelphia trades 2nd and 3rd round picks to Baltimore for 32nd overall to SECURE EJ Manuel .

Draft:
1. Kansas City: Luke Joekel T Texas AM
2. Jacksonville: Enzekial Ansah DE BYU
3. Oakland: Shariff Floyd DT Florida
4. Philadelphia: Eric Fisher T C. Michigan
5. Detroit: Dee Milliner CB Alabama
6. Cleveland: Geno Smith QB West Virginia
7. Arizona: Lane Johnson T Oklahoma
8. Buffalo: Ryan Nassib QB Syracuse
9. NY Jets: Dion Jordan OLB Oregon
10. Tennessee: Jonathon Cooper G North Carolina
11. *Dallas: Sheldon Richardson DT Missouri
12. Miami: Xavier Rhodes CB Florida State
13. *San Fransisco: Kenny Vaccarro S Texas
14. Carolina: Star Loutelli DT Utah
15. New Orleans: Bekarvious Mingo OLB LSU
16. St. Louis: Chance Warmack G Alabama
17. Pittsburgh: Jarvis Jones OLB Georgia
18. *San Diego: DJ Fluker T Alabama
19. NY Giants: Arthur Brown LB Kansas State
20. Chicago: Manti Teo LB Notre Dame
21. Cincinatti: Tavon Austin WR West Virgina
22. St. Louis: Eddie Lacey RB Alabama
23. Minnesota: DeAndre Hopkins WR Clemson
24. Indianapolis: Desmond Trufant CB Washington
25. Minnesota: Kawon Short DT Purdue
26. Green Bay: Barrett Jones C/G Alabama
27. Houston: Keenan Allen WR California
28. Denver: Alec Ogeltree ILB Georgia
29. New England: Jonathon Cyprian S Florida International
30. Altanta: Tank Carradine DE Florida State
31. *Tampa Bay via San Fransisco: Tyler Eifert TE Notre Dame
32. *Philadelphia via Baltimore: EJ Manuel QB Florida State

round 2:

33. Jacksonville: Jonathon Banks CB/S Mississippi State
34. *Tampa Bay: Tyler Wilson QB Arkansas
35. *Baltimore via Philadelphia: Kevin Minter ILB LSU
36. Detroit: Alex Okafore DE Texas
37. Cincinatti: Matt Elam S Florida
38. Arizona: Matt Barkley QB USC
39. FORFIETED CLEVELAND
40. NY Jets: Cordelle Patterson WR Tennessee
41. Tennessee: Datone Jones DE UCLA
42. Buffalo: Terrance Williams WR Baylor
43. Kansas City Via Mami: Margus Hunt DE S..M.U
44. NY Jets via Tampa: Zach Ertz TE Stanford
45. Carolina: Justin Hunter WR Tennessee
46. FORFEITED SAINTS
47. San Diego: Jordan Poyer CB Oregon State
48. St. Louis: Eric Reid S LSU
49. San Diego* via Dallas: Sam Montgomery OLB LSU
50. Pittsburgh: Larry Warford G Kentucky
51. NY Giants: Kasheem Greene LB Rutgers
52. Chicago: Justin Pugh G/T Syracuse
53. Washington: David Amerson CB/FS North Carolina State
54. Minnesota: Jamar Taylor CB Boise State
55. Cincinatti: Melanik Watson T Florida State
56. Miami: Giovani Bernard RB North Carolina
57. Green Bay: Leveon Bell RB Michigan State
58. Seattle: Gerald Hodges OLB Penn State
59. Houston: Jonathon Hankins NT Ohio State
60. Denver: Corey Lemonier DE/OLB Auburn
61. New England: Quinton Patton WR LA Tech
62. Atlanta: Gavin Escobar TE San Diego State
63. San Fransisco: Darius Slay CB Missippi State
64. Baltimore: DJ Swearinger S South Carolina

3rd round:
65. Kansas City: Jamie Collins ILB Southern Miss
66. Jacksonville: Matt Scott QB Arizona
67. Detroit: Kyle Long G/T Oregon
68. Oakland: Robert Alford CB S.E. Louisiana
69. Baltimore: DaRick Rodgers WR Tennesee Tech
70. Cleveland: Bledi Wreh Wilson CB Conneticut
71. Buffalo: John Simon OLB Ohio State
72. NY Jets: Mike Glennon QB NC State
73. Tampa Bay: Logan Ryan CB Rutgers
74. San Fransisco: Jesse Williams NT Alabama
75. New Orleans: John Jenkins NT Georgia

That's all I have for 2 1/2 rounds.
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That KC draft would be extremely underwhelming. Trading our LT just to draft his replacement, and then using that pick on Hunt? Ugh.
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That KC draft would be extremely underwhelming. Trading our LT just to draft his replacement, and then using that pick on Hunt? Ugh.
That trade has been swirling around the past 2 weeks, that's why I projected it. Something tells me it happens.
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I might be in the minority but I don't think Kenny Vacarro is an elite enough prospect to trade up 18 spots for. I'd rather stick at #31 and #34 than give up so much.
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I might be in the minority but I don't think Kenny Vacarro is an elite enough prospect to trade up 18 spots for. I'd rather stick at #31 and #34 than give up so much.
Vaccaro is pretty darn good. He lined up against Tavon Austin in the season last year and did a nice job against him 1 on 1. He's a well rounded safety that compares very well top Eric Weddle. With 15 picks, I think the Niners splurge a bit.
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Dallas trades up with Richardson, Vaccaro, Star, and Warmack still available. That doesn't make sense.

The value part of the draft is between 16-60 based on the amount of first grades given that means you don't want to be trading away those picks. Makes a TON of sense for San Diego but none for Dallas.
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San Fransisco trades 1st round pick, 2nd via KC and 3rd to Tampa for 13th overall and 6th round pick in 2014.
You realize the values of those picks and that we'd be overpaying ? Essentially for the 49ers to overpay for Vaccaro like you have us doing here, there would need to be a really big dropoff between KV and the next best safety/ies available in Cyprien, Elam & Reid (whom you have going 29,37 & 48).
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Dallas trades up with Richardson, Vaccaro, Star, and Warmack still available. That doesn't make sense.

The value part of the draft is between 16-60 based on the amount of first grades given that means you don't want to be trading away those picks. Makes a TON of sense for San Diego but none for Dallas.
Richardson would be a terror at UT in their new Tampa 2 defense. Star wouldn't fit the scheme.
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Like the idea of trading down, trading for Revis and the first round pick is fine. Wilson in the 2nd is pretty craptastic. I would take Poyer in the second and one of the DTs in the third instead.
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I'd prefer Carradine, Banks, or Patterson in the first round. I like Quinton Patton in the second, though.
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Amerson in the second and its great
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Richardson would be a terror at UT in their new Tampa 2 defense. Star wouldn't fit the scheme.
At the expense of a player like Warford, Watson, Pugh, and Reid? Dallas could stand pat or trade down and target Short in the first if they wanted a 3-tech. I do like Richardson A LOT just not in a trade-up scenario.

Jason Hatcher and Ratliff starting inside allows Dallas to stand pat and not trade up or reach for prospects on the defensive line.

Rough board though for Dallas at 18. Tough draw.
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Seriously Buc?!?! Nassib @8???? AT 8?!?!?!?

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Too much to give up for Vaccaro, no thanks
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Bengals draft is fine. I will prolly give them Bernard over Watson since Andre Smith will eventually sign with no other teams interested in him
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Vaccaro is pretty darn good. He lined up against Tavon Austin in the season last year and did a nice job against him 1 on 1.
I know he wasn't on him every snap but Austin had double digit catches and over 100 yards against Texas. A better sample would help your argument.
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If i'm Seattle i'm taking Bjoern Werner in the second round.
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I have a few issues here -
#1 as stated earlier - Nassib at #8 - REALLY ??!!??
#2 I would agree that Vacarro is NOT worth selling everything
#3 - KC trades Albert for picking Joeckel - Whaaaaaa ??
On a positive note - I like the Bears' picks
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I'll pass on that trade for Miami and just take Menelik Watson at 42.

Rhodes is fine, as is Bernard.
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Cleveland would burn. Especially with Jordan available.
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I just don't see Shanahan taking a chance on Amerson. Wouldn't upset me if he did but if you are trying to play the odds then I'd swap it to someone else that better fits Shanahans drafting profile.
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