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Didn't feel like writing explanations for all the picks, if you have any criticisms or questions regarding the justification for a pick leave a response and I'll reply.

Round 1
Kansas City Chiefs: Luke Joeckel, OT, Texas A&M
Jacksonville Jaguars: Eric Fisher, OT, Central Michigan
Oakland Raiders: Sharrif Floyd, DT, Florida
Philadelphia Eagles: Dee Milliner, CB, Alabama
Detroit Lions: Dion Jordan, DE, Oregon
Cleveland Browns: Ezekiel Ansah, DE, BYU
Arizona Cardinals: Geno Smith, QB, West Virginia
Buffalo Bills: Matt Barkley, QB, USC
New York Jets: Barkevious Mingo, OLB/DE, LSU
Tennessee Titans: Star Lotulelei, DT, Utah
San Diego Chargers: Lane Johnson, OT, Oklahoma
Miami Dolphins: Xavier Rhodes, CB, Florida State
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Sheldon Richardson, DT, Missouri
Carolina Panthers: Chance Warmack, G, Alabama
New Orleans Saints: Jarvis Jones, OLB, Georgia
St. Louis Rams: Kenny Vaccaro, S, Texas
Pittsburgh Steelers: Cordarrelle Patterson, WR, Tennessee
Dallas Cowboys: Jonathan Cooper, G, UNC
New York Giants: Bjoern Werner, DE, Florida State
Chicago Bears: Alec Ogletree, LB, Georgia
Cincinnati Bengals: Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia
St. Louis Rams (from Washington): Keenan Allen, WR, Cal
Minnesota Vikings: Manti Te’o, MLB, Notre Dame
Indianapolis Colts: Datone Jones, DE, UCLA
Minnesota Vikings (from Seattle): Desmond Trufant, CB, Washington
Green Bay Packers: Sylvester Williams, DT, UNC
Houston Texans: Robert Woods, WR, USC
Denver Broncos: Jonathan Hankins, DT, Ohio State
New England Patriots: DeAndre Hopkins, WR, Clemson
Atlanta Falcons: Zach Ertz, TE, Stanford
San Francisco 49ers: Matt Elam, S, Florida
Baltimore Ravens: DJ Fluker, OT, Alabama

Round 2
Jacksonville Jaguars: Blidi-Wreh Wilson, CB, UCONN
San Francisco 49ers (from Kansas City): Tyler Eifert, TE, Notre Dame
Philadelphia Eagles: E.J. Manuel, QB, Florida State
Detroit Lions: Menelik Watson, OT, Florida State
Cincinnati Bengals (from Oakland): Giovanni Bernard, RB, UNC
Arizona Cardinals: Damontre Moore, DE, Texas A&M
Cleveland Browns: (exercised in 2012 supplemental draft)
New York Jets: Eddie Lacy, RB, Alabama
Tennessee Titans: Cornelius Carradine, DE, Florida State
Buffalo Bills: Justin Hunter, WR, Tennessee
Miami Dolphins: Terron Armstead, OT, Arkansas Pine-Bluff
Tampa Bay Buccaneers: Jordan Poyer, CB, Oregon State
Carolina Panthers: Kawann Short, DT, Purdue
New Orleans Saints (Forfeited):
San Diego Chargers: Justin Pugh, T/G, Syracuse
St. Louis Rams: Arthur Brown, LB, Kansas State
Dallas Cowboys: Jonathan Cyprien, S, FIU
Pittsburgh Steelers: Jonathan Jenkins, DT, Georgia
New York Giants: Jonathan Banks, CB, Mississippi State
Chicago Bears: Terrance Williams, WR, Baylor
Washington Redskins: Kevin Minter, MLB, LSU
Minnesota Vikings: Jesse Williams, DT, Alabama
Cincinnati Bengals: Eric Reid, S, LSU
Miami Dolphins (from Indianapolis): T.J. McDonald, S, USC
Green Bay Packers: Margus Hunt, DE, SMU
Seattle Seahawks: Khaseem Greene, OLB, Rutgers
Houston Texans: Mike Glennon, QB, NC State
Denver Broncos: Travis Frederick, C, Wisconsin
New England Patriots: Kyle Long, G/T, Oregon
Atlanta Falcons: Alex Okafor, DE, Texas
San Francisco 49ers: David Amerson, CB, NC State
Baltimore Ravens: Sio Moore, LB, UCONN
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Not my ideal KC pick but it makes sense.
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so the Bills are still taking a QB at 8 despite just signing Kolb and having holes at LB, WR, OG, CB, TE?
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so the Bills are still taking a QB at 8 despite just signing Kolb and having holes at LB, WR, OG, CB, TE?
I don't think Kevin Kolb signing eliminates the Bills's need for a QB of the future. Neither Kolb nor Tavaris Jackson are that guy. I dont think they have as big a need for CB or TE as they do a QB for the future. They have Stephon Gilmore, Leodis McKelvin, and Aaron Williams at CB. At TE they have Scott Chandler and Lee Smith who showed he could be a good RZ target at times last season. I feel like they already have two middle and outside backers for their 3-4 scheme. While yes their was a G and maybe a WR worth picking here, I felt that Buffalo couldn't pass on Barkley who could be their QB of the future. It is also a position that they have ignored in the draft in the past and I don't think Marrone does that, snatching up his QB early.
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Question. Why would the Jets take Lane Johnson? What position would he play? LG? I'm not following your logic...

Mingo is the obvious pick. Jets are set at LT and the only reason you'd take Lane is to have him play LT
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Not a good pick for the Colts. They are pretty deep at DL after their free agent signings.

Give them CB Desmond Trufant. Adding Trufant would give them one of the better secondaries in the league.
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Fluker is not a good pick for the Ravens. RT isn't a need even if Oher gets moved back to LT. They still have Reid and that's his best position and what he was drafted to play. I'm not buying into the Moore hype yet either. He fills a need but I'm still skeptical that he's a day 2 pick (for now).
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Bengals draft is ok nothing special.
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Question. Why would the Jets take Lane Johnson? What position would he play? LG? I'm not following your logic...

Mingo is the obvious pick. Jets are set at LT and the only reason you'd take Lane is to have him play LT
I feel he represents an upgrade at right tackle over Austin Howard. He has played both Right Tackle and Left Tackle in college. I thought it was important the Jets get to solid tackles to protect Sanchez this year or whoever their QB is moving forward. Clearly that was an area they struggled with last year.
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Bengals draft is ok nothing special.
Here are the two explanations I had for the first two Bengals picks before I decided to not write anymore explanations.

Tavon Austin, WR, West Virginia: Based on the Bengals last two playoff losses it's pretty clear to me that if they want to get better their offense needs to get faster. The Texans just had to worry about covering AJ Green in order to win last year in the playoffs. Austin represents a dynamic threat alongside Green that can play all over the field.

Giovanni Bernard, RB, UNC: Another pick to take the Bengals offense to the next level. I see Mike Brown and Marvin Lewis using their premium picks to bring a lot more talent to an offense that outside of AJ Green doesnít have much talent to make a defense worry. Lewis is rumored to be a big fan of Bernard which is part of the reason I have him going here. Like Austin, Bernard represents the element of speed that this Bengals offense currently lacks. Currently the only running backs on the roster behind BenJarvus Green-Ellis are Cedric Peerman and Dan Herron. Neither of those are good enough to spell Green-Ellis when he needs to sit out a play. Bernard gives Jay Gruden and the Bengalís offense the ability to be more creative at running back. The Bengals drafted Kenny Irons in 2007 when there were other positions that many people felt were more important for them to address. Unfortunately for things didnít work out as he tore his ACL in a preseason game, but I could see Mike Brown trying it again.
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A better Bears draft would be Austin and Amerson.
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I feel he represents an upgrade at right tackle over Austin Howard. He has played both Right Tackle and Left Tackle in college. I thought it was important the Jets get to solid tackles to protect Sanchez this year or whoever their QB is moving forward. Clearly that was an area they struggled with last year.
Not really. Howard is a plus run blocker he's likely not going anywhere. Also using the 9th pick on a RT is fairly horrible. Might as well draft Warmack to play LG, the one spot on the line we actually have a hole. Tackle play is one of our least concerns, we have no safeties, no starting quality OLBs, no TEs, no LG, etc etc. Outside rusher or MAYBE warmack, or Geno if he's there at 9 maybe.
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Not really. Howard is a plus run blocker he's likely not going anywhere. Also using the 9th pick on a RT is fairly horrible. Might as well draft Warmack to play LG, the one spot on the line we actually have a hole. Tackle play is one of our least concerns, we have no safeties, no starting quality OLBs, no TEs, no LG, etc etc. Outside rusher or MAYBE warmack, or Geno if he's there at 9 maybe.
I see. I was unaware of Howard's talent level. I'll edit my draft to better reflect the Jets needs, switching Johnson for Mingo. Thank you for your insight.
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I like the SF draft, nicely done.
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so the Bills are still taking a QB at 8 despite just signing Kolb and having holes at LB, WR, OG, CB, TE?
Pretty much my exact thoughts.

I don't see it happening. I do like Hunter in the 2nd rnd though.
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Demontre Moore or Trufant would be a better Colts pick, but Jones isn't too bad.
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Definitely could target an inside linebacker at some point but with Fletcher coming back and Robinson returning from injury who looked good before he got hurt, I'd imagine the secondary will be a much higher concern. Even at BPA, I dont think Minter is a great pick in this situation.
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a perfect mock for sf. We really don't need a TE in the second round so not thanks to Ertz remove and pick a DT instead.
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Lol at McDonald being a 2nd round pick. ZERO chance this guy goes that high. Horrible Senior season and not lighting up workouts either. Probably a 4th-5th rounder. We also don't need a SS, as Reshad Jones was a Pro Bowler last season. McDonald is strictly a SS.

We do need pass rushers though, so Alex Okafor would make more sense for the Phins second 2nd round pick.
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Lol at McDonald being a 2nd round pick. ZERO chance this guy goes that high. Horrible Senior season and not lighting up workouts either. Probably a 4th-5th rounder. We also don't need a SS, as Reshad Jones was a Pro Bowler last season. McDonald is strictly a SS.

We do need pass rushers though, so Alex Okafor would make more sense for the Phins second 2nd round pick.
I disagree that he is not a second round pick. I don't know where you are hearing he did not light up work outs because he had a great combine and performed well in his pro day. I feel that scouts are seeing that this past year McDonald was in a bad situation with Monte Kiffin' defense imploding. Yes Reshad Jones was a pro bowler last year, but he is also the only SS on the roster who has played and he is also a FA after the season. Depth at safety, a third safety, is definitely a need for the Dolphins whose secondary struggled at times last year. DE is a position the Dolphins could look at, but between Vernon, Wake, and Odrick I feel that they have enough good DEs to wait until later in the draft.
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so the Bills are still taking a QB at 8 despite just signing Kolb and having holes at LB, WR, OG, CB, TE?
LOL. Yes, Kevin Kolb is the answer to all their questions at QB!
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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LOL. Yes, Kevin Kolb is the answer to all their questions at QB!
I didn't say he was. I was strictly making the point that if they are so sold on this QB draft class they wouldn't have brought in Kolb in the first place. They would have just taken the best guy at 8 and had him compete with Tavaris Jackson. The thought behind it is they have worked out 6 QB's. This list includes Geno Smith,Matt Barkley, E.J. Manuel, Ryan Nassib, Landry Jones, and Tyler Bray. This was all before they decided to sign Kevin Kolb. I would think that if one of them impressed so much in private workouts that the Bills would have been sold. The Bills will take one of these QB's but it will be either in round 2 or 3. They will then let Kolb and this pick compete for the job and either or both bomb they will take a much better QB prospect in 2014. Thanks for your comment and thanks for playing.
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I didn't say he was. I was strictly making the point that if they are so sold on this QB draft class they wouldn't have brought in Kolb in the first place. They would have just taken the best guy at 8 and had him compete with Tavaris Jackson. The thought behind it is they have worked out 6 QB's. This list includes Geno Smith,Matt Barkley, E.J. Manuel, Ryan Nassib, Landry Jones, and Tyler Bray. This was all before they decided to sign Kevin Kolb. I would think that if one of them impressed so much in private workouts that the Bills would have been sold. The Bills will take one of these QB's but it will be either in round 2 or 3. They will then let Kolb and this pick compete for the job and either or both bomb they will take a much better QB prospect in 2014. Thanks for your comment and thanks for playing.
They didn't give up anything to get Kolb, so it makes all the sense in the world that they would sign him considering there is no guarantee they'll end up with a QB they want in the draft. If whoever they draft beats Kolb out of the startin job they can cut him if they need the cap space.
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a perfect mock for sf. We really don't need a TE in the second round so not thanks to Ertz remove and pick a DT instead.
It's perfect, yet you would switch a DT for the TE? Hmmm....
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