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I love how everyone leaves T.O. off because they think he is a cancer to the team, even though he isn't even close to one. He is easily top 5.
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top 5 in drops..face it. he aint as good as he once was
you cry about Newman being top 3 now you cry about Owens being top 5 easily? If Marion Barber a top 10 back? Romo a top 10 QB? Get a grip ..TO is not top 5..probabably not top 10. He drops a lot of balls and dont blame injuries or else we can redo the whole list because of injuries
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04-04-2007, 02:00 PM
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We will see this year, and no, romo and barber aren't top 10, but they are in the NFC. But IMO when T.O. doesn't have a freakin torn ligament in his had and when you touch it he feels like it is getting stabbed, and you have an NFL QB drilling it at him, and he still leads the league in TDs, he is in my top 5. T.O. will be back this year. I don't care about the drops. He had 15, and who knows how many of those are really "drops". That is less than 1 a game. ANd the only reason people remember the drops is because they came in crucial parts of the game, like the Redskins and Giants games.
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04-04-2007, 02:02 PM
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We will see this year, and no, romo and barber aren't top 10. But IMO when T.O. doesn't have a freakin torn ligament in his had and when you touch it he feels like it is getting stabbed, and you have an NFL QB drilling it at him, and he still leads the league in TDs, he is in my top 5. T.O. will be back this year.
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okay well when HE IS healthy..then throw him in top 5-10 or w.e
for now, keep him out because theres a ton of better WRs
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04-04-2007, 02:03 PM
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Well he is healthy now, so he is in the top 10.
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04-04-2007, 02:19 PM
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Well he is healthy now, so he is in the top 10.
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when he proves it wasnt the injuries. after this season
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04-04-2007, 02:49 PM
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i think leverneous coles deserves to be in the top 10 list, and hes sharing time with j cotch.
Leverneous is the toughest wr in the nfl, since chad pennington is there qb. he lays them out since the passes are so soft, and coles works hard, and gets hit pretty badly
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04-04-2007, 03:05 PM
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i think leverneous coles deserves to be in the top 10 list, and hes sharing time with j cotch.
Leverneous is the toughest wr in the nfl, since chad pennington is there qb. he lays them out since the passes are so soft, and coles works hard, and gets hit pretty badly
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toughest WR is TO
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04-04-2007, 03:48 PM
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Reggie Wayne is now drawing the #1 CB on every team he faces. Manning only throws to who is open and who the play is called for. Wayne has over 100 catches the last 2 years in that offense with all those other weapons who also need the ball. He has become the #1 WR in Indianapolis over Harrison. That doesn't mean he's better than Harrison, but he probably will be next year.
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And your telling me that Driver hasnt been drawing #1 CB? He been doing it for the last 3 years because everyteam knew he was the main threat and he still would get 100 yards and 1000 yards a season. The weapens allow him to get one on one coverage and Driver hasnt even seen one on one coverage agaisnt him in long time. Driver should be getting some respect and for some reason he isnt.
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04-04-2007, 05:28 PM
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toughest WR is TO
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Thank you. Any other WR probably would have got the surgury and went on IR, like a Marvin Harrison, but T.O. sucked it up, and still led the league in TDs. And the best part about it is that he didn't even annouce it, and he wasn't going to, Jerry Jones did.
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04-04-2007, 05:33 PM
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Thank you. Any other WR probably would have got the surgury and went on IR, like a Marvin Harrison, but T.O. sucked it up, and still led the league in TDs. And the best part about it is that he didn't even annouce it, and he wasn't going to, Jerry Jones did.
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How do you know other WR's wouldn't play through the injury? You're just assuming that guys like Marvin wouldn't play because they're smart about taking care of their bodies and you consider them to be "pussies" because of that.
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04-04-2007, 06:04 PM
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I can't sit here and proclaim one guy as the toughest WR in the game, but the first guy that came to mind for some reason was Steve Smith. He'll take your best shot and then jump up and laugh in your face. He'll then proceed to score 3 TD's on you. And his stature is unimposing, which adds to the effect. Anquan Boldin comes to mind as well. I've seen TO alligator-arm it a few times.
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04-04-2007, 07:32 PM
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Thank you. Any other WR probably would have got the surgury and went on IR, like a Marvin Harrison, but T.O. sucked it up, and still led the league in TDs. And the best part about it is that he didn't even annouce it, and he wasn't going to, Jerry Jones did.
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i based it soley on the Superbowl but yeah throw that in. Hes the toughest but still not top 5 until he gets 100% and proves it
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04-04-2007, 07:36 PM
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Steve Smith #1 and then a lot of people after...
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I think Ocho Cinco and Steve Smith are tied for first. Smith is just so impressive because he is small. Harrison and Holt are just solid year in and year out. TO runs his mouth too much to be considered the best. If Randy Moss cared, he could be ahead of everybody, but when you have no one throwing you the ball and your team sucks, you'd be unhappy too. Donald Driver never gets any love. He's a great target for Favre.
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04-04-2007, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Achilles33
Thank you. Any other WR probably would have got the surgury and went on IR, like a Marvin Harrison, but T.O. sucked it up, and still led the league in TDs. And the best part about it is that he didn't even annouce it, and he wasn't going to, Jerry Jones did.
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Boldin is atleast as tough as TO & i know he runs over more people than him
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04-04-2007, 07:52 PM
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Boldin is atleast as tough as TO & i know he runs over more people than him
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he wasnt talking about "toughest to bring down" otherwise i would agree. Quan is my favorite WR(or 2nd)
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04-04-2007, 09:17 PM
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1. Randy Moss
2. Marvin Harrison
3. Chad Johnson
4. Larry Fitzgerald
5. Reggie Wayne
6. Anquan Boldin
7. Torry Holt
8. Lee Evans
9. Terrell Owens
10. Joe Horn
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How is Steve Smith not in that list. Smith hater?
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04-04-2007, 10:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Achilles33
We will see this year, and no, romo and barber aren't top 10, but they are in the NFC. But IMO when T.O. doesn't have a freakin torn ligament in his had and when you touch it he feels like it is getting stabbed, and you have an NFL QB drilling it at him, and he still leads the league in TDs, he is in my top 5. T.O. will be back this year. I don't care about the drops. He had 15, and who knows how many of those are really "drops". That is less than 1 a game. ANd the only reason people remember the drops is because they came in crucial parts of the game, like the Redskins and Giants games.
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The crucial part of the games is what matters. If he drops a pass when there is 3 mins left and DAL is up by 21 who cares, but when like in the WAS game and its neck and neck you cant drop passes and make stupid mistakes. Therefore people have the right to remeber when he drops passes. To argue that the only reason people remember them is because it happend in crucial parts is stupid and only hurts TO.
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04-04-2007, 10:14 PM
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How do you know other WR's wouldn't play through the injury? You're just assuming that guys like Marvin wouldn't play because they're smart about taking care of their bodies and you consider them to be "pussies" because of that.
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Didn't Harrison play a few games with a hand fracture either this season or the one before?
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04-04-2007, 10:22 PM
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Didn't Harrison play a few games with a hand fracture either this season or the one before?
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Marvin Harrison suffered an undisclosed injury in Saturday's win
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http://www.rotoworld.com/content/pla...rt=NFL&id=1502
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No, I think it was further back than that.
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04-05-2007, 02:56 PM
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Torry Holt
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Others: Javon Walker, Roy Williams, T.J. Who'syourmama, Donald Driver, Terrell Owens, Randy Moss
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