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Old 04-26-2013, 02:09 PM    (permalink
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I don't remember what people thought of Colin Kaepernick a few years ago. What was the consensus on him?
Great Leader, had some questions on how he would translate to the nfl and abotu his accuracy and throwing motion.
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Minnesota did work last night. Got Patterson in good spot too, but seriously Patterson needs to work on his hands.

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I don't remember what people thought of Colin Kaepernick a few years ago. What was the consensus on him?
a great physical toolset to work with (like exceptional both in armstrength and athletisism) but a huge huge project. no experience with the reads of a pro offense, questions whether his skills would translate. that being said he was a leader and played best under pressure
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referring from a previous post...

I doubt Mallett gets traded today. But if I were any of these teams, I would gladly give up a second instead of drafting a Nassib, Barkley, Wilson, etc.
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Hindsight is a great thing to have. Right now nobody knows how Manuel or Smith will do with their new respective teams. What kind of offense to they run, will they cater to his strengths, does he have passing weapons on O, does his team have a strong running game, will his D be great to mitigate the pressure to carry a team???

Lets see how they're used and then judge from there shall we?
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Hindsight is a great thing to have. Right now nobody knows how Manuel or Smith will do with their new respective teams. What kind of offense to they run, will they cater to his strengths, does he have passing weapons on O, does his team have a strong running game, will his D be great to mitigate the pressure to carry a team???

Lets see how they're used and then judge from there shall we?
No, I laughed at the Manuel pick and I predicted he'll be a bust, so now I have to forever root against him so I can bring my "victory" up in conversations over the internet.

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Don't get me wrong Kaep is a very talented young QB, but lets not act like playing on the most talented team in football hasn't helped him out a bit here.
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No, I laughed at the Manuel pick and I predicted he'll be a bust, so now I have to forever root against him so I can bring my "victory" up in conversations over the internet.

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Hmm, I actually quite like Manuel, even though I thought the pick was really bad. I won't be rooting against him. The Bills are one of the teams I always want to do well, outside of the Packers.

I think he COULD become a franchise QB, but if we're predicting that people will always reach there potential, there are a lot of guys that could go in the first round. I doubt EJ ever does become that franchise guy and there were at least 3 QB's I would've taken over him, which is why I personally didn't like it.

At least they have hope and at least they managed to get an extra second out of #8. There are still some good players they can get in the second round that would make up for it if EJ doesn't pan out.
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I don't remember what people thought of Colin Kaepernick a few years ago. What was the consensus on him?
He could really move and throw on the run. Had a rocket for an arm but everything he threw was flat with no loft or second speed. He was very raw. He was lucky to get to sit a year and let the team's coaches work on his flaws, it is amazing how well that can work if a player is responsive.

Rodgers completely changed his throwing motion while being coached up for 2 years behind Favre, it is doubtful that if he had been forced to start right away, he wouldn't be nearly as effective as he is today.
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The draft decided how good this QB crop is with only one going at #16, which is pretty high for a successful QB.
THis is the worst crop of QB's in 25 years and anybody predicting any success for any of them is just way off in dreamland.
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I doubt Mallett gets traded today. But if I were any of these teams, I would gladly give up a second instead of drafting a Nassib, Barkley, Wilson, etc.
I'm honestly surprised the Bills would rather give up a first for dumb EJ than give up a 3rd for Mallet or maybe a second. Maybe the Patriots are scared of Mallet and won't trade him in division.
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Biggest loser(s) for me were the Bears and Cowboys.
I think Kyle Long will be a player for a long time, good bloodlines, etc. Although a "reach" according to us, I think it's a good pick.
The pick by the Bills could be disasterous though, as well as of course what Dallas did.
Those guys both would have been around for maybe 2 more rounds, for sure 1 more round... super reaches. Plus Manuel is Terrell Pryor.
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Great value for sf to trade up to 18 and only giving up 31 and a 3rd rounder to get Eric Reid.

Vikings when really? They gave up a ton of picks to swap with NE. Much less then Sf had too.
Eric Reid probably would have been there at 31.
And the Vikings just got 3 studs..... so what they gave up a 2, 3 and 4. You go back 5 years and find any team who came away with 3 guys that studly..... plus they still have some picks left.
They hit the jackpot, trifecta.
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Ravens - Brown and Williams were both steals and their defense gets a lot better.

Giants - Hankins and Moore massively improves their defensive line depth and rotation.

Jets - Getting a potential franchise QB in the mid second round is perfect.

Raiders - Watson and Moore give them starters at 2 positions.

49ers - Lemonier and Tank. Their pass rush is gonna be crazy. Both great players.

Titans - Loved the potential of all of their picks. Huge fan of Hunter and Blidi.
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The key is they get to learn from Asante as well.
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Really? I would think the key would be to practice against White, Jones, and Gonzalez. Asante Samuel, though?
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Lets hope this works out greatly b/c they will be covering for a long time with no pass rush...Trade the house for Clowney next year, idgaf what it costs.
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Really? I would think the key would be to practice against White, Jones, and Gonzalez. Asante Samuel, though?
Asante is a hard worker and knows how to play in multiple systems. He is a good mentor to learn from.

Covering White and Jones in practice doesn't hurt.
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Asante is a hard worker and knows how to play in multiple systems. He is a good mentor to learn from.

Covering White and Jones in practice doesn't hurt.
Very true, I love both players, esp Trufant, just not a good spot for us to land a DE to make an impact. Apparently we were not high on Okafor whom I like a lot.
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WOW. After the conclusion of the 2nd and 3rd rounds, I have to go with ...

The Giants and the Ravens. They absolutely KILLED the second day.
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WOW. After the conclusion of the 2nd and 3rd rounds, I have to go with ...

The Giants and the Ravens. They absolutely KILLED the second day.
gotta think the Niners with Reid, Escobar and Carradine shored up some areas.
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The Ravens reload better than anyone in the league. Kruger goes bring in Elvis, lose Reed draft Elam, Lewis walks bring in Brown.

Not saying this defense is going to be better... but it will be more explosive.
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gotta think the Niners with Reid, Escobar and Carradine shored up some areas.
Eric Reid was a reach, and probably not even the best safety in this class. I like Elam, Cyprien, Vaccaro and even guys like Phillip Thomas over Reid.

Escobar was maybe like the 4th or 5th best TE in this class. If you aren't getting Ertz or Eifert or even Kelce, I just wouldn't go with a TE higher than the 4th round.

Carradine is a nice player with lots of talent, but there are those injury concerns. I probably would have gone in a different direction like Margus Hunt or Kawann Short or Brandon Williams.
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