Originally Posted by Caulibflower
I usually don't pull this one out, but... Have you watched much of him?
Yes...I am an FSU alum so I've seen every single snap. He just never looks very fast on the football field. Compared to a guy like Karlos who looks like he is shot out of a cannon when he gets the ball. Now obvously Karlos is faster, but Wilder is faster than he plays imo. But he never hits the whole with much speed.
He's a good player, very powerful and has great balance to keep chugging forward. Has been very good at bouncing off guys in short yardage situations to get the first down. But he's not an elite prospect by any means. The best RB's have a mix between taking what the defense gives you, and trying to take the ball to the house. I just don't see the latter part with JWJ.
There's no way on earth he's a first rounder. I mean Eddie Lacy fell to the second round. If JWJ declares after this year, his best season would be last year with 635 yards and 11 TD's. We're talking about a guy whose had double digit carries 6 times in his career with a career high of 16! And people thought Reggie Bush hadn't shown he could carry a workload...
Also when Peterson came out of college, he was not known as the cutter that he is today. He was pretty straight line, downhill, fast and powerful. Karlos hasn't shown much yet, but he had a run in the Miami game where he showed some natural cutting ability for the first time. Usually his runs are a one cut and get downhill kind of play because he doesn't have much experience reading blockers. But his running style really looks like Peterson to me, looks like he was shot out of a cannon but is just a beast physically.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills or something with this discussion.