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GM Trent Baalke, or whoever decided to draft Quinton Patton, must be psychic -- and a better psychic that that woman who told the mother of one of the three Cleveland kidnapping victims that her daughter was dead.
Or maybe they just needed another WR? If he knew this was coming then they would have went after a WR much sooner.
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Why does he always get injured around this time of year or TC?
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It's ok. He's used to sitting out.
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1- Sign Tim Tebow to play WR
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Even if he can come back this year he will be a shell and he will need to get back in sync witht the offense. Sure Suggs came back be he wasn't nearly as good and he didn't have to make the hard cuts like a WR. Crab needs the full year off.
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To be honest, I don't think CK needs Crabtree. If his other receivers can run the right routes and get open, Kaepernick can do the rest.

I think Kaep can ball with JAGs out wide, although I do think there's raw physical talent playing for the 49ers at WR. Just that much of it is young and unproven.

Vernon Davis needs to have an All-Pro type season and take the pressure off those young pass catchers. If he and Boldin can stay healthy all season, I don't see any offensive dropoff for SF.
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Kaepernick definitely needs to develop trust with other receiving options, however.

Last season he had 8 TDs and 0 INTS when targeting Crabtree. When targeting others he had 1 TD and 4 INTs.
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Kaepernick definitely needs to develop trust with other receiving options, however.

Last season he had 8 TDs and 0 INTS when targeting Crabtree. When targeting others he had 1 TD and 4 INTs.
But truthfully, he was depended on Crabs to a fault. I see the stats but it was obvious he felt more comfortable throwing in the middle of the field(where Crabs does his most damage) than as opposed to the deep-intermediate outside breaking routes where you have to be on time with your drop and your reads. The last four offensive plays in SB come to mind in regards to his dependence on Crabs. Especailly that last fail pass where you had a much easier chance for a TD....and a PI if you throw that ball up to VD, who seemed like he had his defender boxed out for nice rebound-like reception. Hindsight is always 20/20 but I didn't like hearing he had predetermined he was going to Crabs once he read blitz. Like he blocked out all other alternatives and variables.
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Last season CK had 8 TDs and 0 INTS when targeting Crabtree. When targeting others he had 1 TD and 4 INTs.
Don't hit us with facts.

Also, injuriezzzz.... funny aren't they. I just this week talked with some Niner fan about them, our situation to theirs last year, how lucky they were.
And he padded his strength & conditioning guy.... really?
These things, torn ACLs, Achilles, necks, whatever are usually luck, not conditioning. Maybe recurring hammies are condition-related.

Anyway, the race between Seattle & SF is a tight one, and injuries might very well be the deciding factor.

Seahawk just took a big step forward with this King Crabtree thing.

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Also, injuriezzzz.... funny aren't they. I just this week talked with some Niner fan about them, our situation to theirs last year, how lucky they were.
And he padded his strength & conditioning guy.... really?
These things, torn ACLs, Achilles, necks, whatever are usually luck, not conditioning. Maybe recurring hammies are condition-related.
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1 injury and its the end of the world now? We had 2 players tear their ACL's and 1 player tear their achilles last season so its not like its new to the team. And its not like the Packers had a ton of torn ACL's or achilles last year. Or any team that i can think of.

But its not a coincidence that the team is near the bottom of the league in terms of games missed by starters for about 5 consecutive years...

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Last season he had 8 TDs and 0 INTS when targeting Crabtree. When targeting others he had 1 TD and 4 INTs.
Kaep had 14 passing TD's so there's some discrepancy here.
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More than anything I think it puts Vance McDonald in the spotlight. They were prolly going to use Boldin as a slot WR/TE. Now he's going to go outside and with their lack of WR depth they have to play Vance a ton even though he's a bit raw.

Sucks for Crabtree. Was getting YAC like his college days again. Even if your rivals get injured that sucks.
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Yeah, I love Vance McDonald and now he's in a position where they're going to need him to produce. We should probably be expecting a ton of 2-TE sets, and the 9ers better just hope the word that AJ Jenkins has drastically improved is true and that Boldin still has some gas left. The more I think about it, the more I think losing Crabtree is a bigger blow than people initially think. We all got kind of used to talking about Crabtree like he's been a little underwhelming relative to the hype coming out, but he was arguably their best skill player on offense last year. He's not replaceable.
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It's only considering wide receivers. His stats passing to Tight Ends or Running Backs are not included.
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It's only considering wide receivers. His stats passing to Tight Ends or Running Backs are not included.
That's kind of a crappy stat no? Esp in an offense that uses 2 TE's a lot.
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That's kind of a crappy stat no? Esp in an offense that uses 2 TE's a lot.
I think it could be a solid stat. It's supposed to show his comfort level with the other receivers who will have to carry the burden now.

Except that bringing in Boldin, who is obviously not a part of that stat, negates it to a large extent.

The loss of both Walker and Crabtree is a big blow to the 49ers offense. They were likely looking to air it out more this year and they lost two pieces that Kaepernick really liked.

Boldin hasn't been a great receiver in a while. Yeah, he was effective in the playoffs but he also had Torrey Smith stretching the field and drawing away coverage; the 49ers have no one like that.
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I think it could be a solid stat. It's supposed to show his comfort level with the other receivers who will have to carry the burden now.

Except that bringing in Boldin, who is obviously not a part of that stat, negates it to a large extent.

The loss of both Walker and Crabtree is a big blow to the 49ers offense. They were likely looking to air it out more this year and they lost two pieces that Kaepernick really liked.

Boldin hasn't been a great receiver in a while. Yeah, he was effective in the playoffs but he also had Torrey Smith stretching the field and drawing away coverage; the 49ers have no one like that.
Losing Walker is not a big blow to our passing offense. His drop percentage was one of the worst in the league last year and he didn't even manage 50 targets the whole year, including the playoffs. His loss effects the running game more than anything.

The loss of Crabs can't be replicated by one person. I do feel we have enough talent at RB, WR, and TE to do just fine in the passing game. Roman will scheme enough to make the passing game formidable, who ever steps onto the field. And if Baalke isn't satisfied with what's in the building currently, he will make a move. OTAs just started this week. The season is still a long ways away. We have enough time to evaluate current personnel and determine if moves need to be made. Its not like this happened during the middle of the season. Does the injury hurt us? Absolutely. Does it cripple us? Absolutely not.
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I think the 49ers should be fine, but it is a bit much to expect them to depend on an aging WR who wont get great separation, 2 guys coming of season ending injuries, and a rookie TE for their young QB who only has 10 starts. VD is their only very legit pass catching option I'd say. It may be too much to put on a developing young QB.
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I think the 49ers should be fine, but it is a bit much to expect them to depend on an aging WR who wont get great separation, 2 guys coming of season ending injuries, and a rookie TE for their young QB who only has 10 starts. VD is their only very legit pass catching option I'd say. It may be too much to put on a developing young QB.
Meh. Kaepernick thus far doesn't seem like the kind of guy that will get rattled. Seems to have a tough skin. He did depend on Crabtree a lot last year. So we'll see. This is just going to be another huge hurdle he'll have to deal with.
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:D

he was by far the best WR against Patrick Peterson, even Megatron didn't give PP the kind of problems that Crabtree did

time to figure out how big of a waste AJ Jenkins was
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That's bc Patrick Peterson is an overrated CB. At least at the moment. The upside is there.
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if anything he is underrated after last year
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