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Default The SuperHype of Ha-Ha Clinton Dix

Am I the only one who thinks this guy is OverHyped Poster Boy #1 this draft?

When I watch his film, and I have watched every highlight package I can see of him on YouTube, I don't see anything "special" about him.

He's decent. Not great. Nothing jumps out at me.

I don't see elite sideline-to-sideline speed. I don't see great change of direction.
I don't see any intimidator factor either, although he's a free safety anyway.

Why is he so hyped?
Is it just by us fans and the TV pundits?

Why is he so SuperHyped?
The Bama Defense?
His funky name?

As if the film wasn't enough, there's this to back it up.



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He is hyped up by virtue of being a Nick Saban DB, plain and simple. He's still one of the best Safeties in this class, but it's also not a great Safety class.
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If Ed Reynolds and Ha Ha had switched colleges as incoming freshman, would they have switched rankings in the draft this year?
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Just more 'Bama hype for their draft eligible pro prospects.

Who was the last Tide prospect that wasn't overhyped??

Not one of them has been better than solid in the NFL(Dont'a Hightower).
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Just more 'Bama hype for their draft eligible pro prospects.

Who was the last Tide prospect that wasn't overhyped??

Not one of them has been better than solid in the NFL(Dont'a Hightower).
Javier Arenas?
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Who was the last Tide prospect that wasn't overhyped??

Not one of them has been better than solid in the NFL(Dont'a Hightower).
Julio Jones, Eddie Lacy, Evan Mathis, and Andre Smith are all some of the best at their positions. DJ Fluker also looks to be somewhat better than solid (only at right tackle, not left).
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Julio Jones, Eddie Lacy, Evan Mathis, and Andre Smith are all some of the best at their positions. DJ Fluker also looks to be somewhat better than solid (only at right tackle, not left).
Refresh my memory for the defensive side under Saban.
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Marcel Dareus and...I got nuthin' else.
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I think he will be a good NFL free safety but he isn't going to be Earl Thomas. He doesn't have a glaring weakness but doesn't really excel at anything, and that is what we have seen with a lot of these recent Alabama defensive players under Saban. He isn't as athletic as 99% of the safeties you see getting the top 15 hype this late in the draft process, but he is a responsible player who can play centerfield and doesn't have a huge hole in his game. There is something to be said for that and most teams would like to have a safety like him back there, but I agree that he is a bit overhyped. Safeties that go as high as he is projected to get picked are usually pretty special, I don't think he is special.

A lot of that speaks to the demand for safeties, one mistake and you have Jacoby Jones going over Rahim Moore ending your season or Randall Cobb going over Chris Conte and ending your season. Even if he is not Ed Reed or Earl Thomas, some teams will value having a guy who they think won't **** up and make game changing mistakes. This isn't a strong class for safeties and a lot of teams have a need there, that is the way the draft works. People will draft for need over value sometimes, not really the best way to go about it but it will happen.

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HHCD is known to be able to cover a lot of ground as a FS. That's why I mocked him to the Jets; he would be a good fit in the man free coverage of the 46 defense.
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LOLOL.

Okay I was totally, ass-backwards wrong. I've got Trent Richardson/Mark Ingram on the brain.
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Dee Milliner wasn't awful as a rookie.
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Mathis was pre-Saban.
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Dee Milliner wasn't awful as a rookie.
He was actually pretty terrible.
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He was actually pretty terrible.
How did Mark Barron do?
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To tell you the truth I didn't get to see many Tampa games, but whenever I watched the Jets play Milliner looked like he was getting picked on.
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To tell you the truth I didn't get to see many Tampa games, but whenever I watched the Jets play Milliner looked like he was getting picked on.
Statistically Barron looks like he's been a solid player at the very least.
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To tell you the truth I didn't get to see many Tampa games, but whenever I watched the Jets play Milliner looked like he was getting picked on.
He had 3 INTs in his last 2 games last year, probably because he was picked on a lot, but at least it shows progress as the season went on.
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He wasn't all that good either!!!!
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I remember Barron made some splash plays as a rookie, a few monster hits and I am pretty sure he had a pick 6 on Brady. I thought he was in line for a breakout year in 2013 coming off of a solid rookie season to go along with the additions of Revis and Goldson. I am pretty sure Tampa's pass rush wasn't great and the offense put them in some tough spots as well, I think Barron will be a good one as long as they don't try to play him like he is Ed Reed.
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I remember Barron made some splash plays as a rookie, a few monster hits and I am pretty sure he had a pick 6 on Brady. I thought he was in line for a breakout year in 2013 coming off of a solid rookie season to go along with the additions of Revis and Goldson. I am pretty sure Tampa's pass rush wasn't great and the offense put them in some tough spots as well, I think Barron will be a good one if they don't try to play him like he is Ed Reed.
I expect him to become a Pro Bowler under Lovie Smith. He was a player I really, really wanted in Dallas that year.
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I've watched 5 or 6 of his games trying to like him. I just don't see the top 15 player like a lot of people have him projected as. Every time I see him being selected at #13 I cringe.
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He had 3 INTs in his last 2 games last year, probably because he was picked on a lot, but at least it shows progress as the season went on.
Of his 3 INTs,

Campbell's pass was tipped at the line and more or less went right to Milliner who actually looked like he was going to bobble it.

He made one great pick getting ahead of Hartline to make the pick

Tannehil threw it right to him. It was an over throw but there was literally no one around except Milliner.

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I think Pryor will be the better of the Safeties drafted in the 1st round. But I have been wrong many times before
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