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Old 06-19-2013, 03:11 PM    (permalink
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The reversals in vidae's, jvig's and others approach would probably be the best bit if it actually turned out true.
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The reversals in vidae's, jvig's and others approach would probably be the best bit if it actually turned out true.
Now we will continue to buy the XBOne. Those things never bothered us and we saw why Microsoft was doing it. If anything it's the PS4 people who will be changing their approach
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The author of this article is from my home town. He has been reviewing and writing about games since he's been 16. Cool guy, he also made video game spoof videos. I got an unreleased razor scooter game from him. It was awesome.
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Now we will continue to buy the XBOne. Those things never bothered us and we saw why Microsoft was doing it. If anything it's the PS4 people who will be changing their approach
What OSU said, haha.
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The reversals in vidae's, jvig's and others approach would probably be the best bit if it actually turned out true.
I'm not sure, youve made one factual or logical post in this thread. In regards to this post specifically, i don't even know what the **** youre attempting to convey here.

All this does is appease the people upset over those policies, to which never was an issue for the posters you mentioned.
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In fact, if anything this reversal just makes your posts even funnier, since Forenci, Vidae, OSU and I all stated that the details were vague and there was no reason to just make assumptions about these models or systems until all the details were revealed by MS. (which admittedly was a stupid way to go about it since most of those restrictions pissed everyone off to kingdom come in the first place)
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In fact, if anything this reversal just makes your posts even funnier, since Forenci, Vidae, OSU and I all stated that the details were vague and there was no reason to just make assumptions about these models or systems until all the details were revealed by MS. (which admittedly was a stupid way to go about it since most of those restrictions pissed everyone off to kingdom come in the first place)
This is not an issue of clarifying vague details, this would entail a complete reversal of published policy.
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This is not an issue of clarifying vague details, this would entail a complete reversal of published policy.


The point being you were making a fuss over something that didn't even turn out to be an issue (if the reports are factual), while we just kept saying we'd wait to hear what the actual guidelines were from MS. Either way, we all stated they didn't largely effect us in the first place. So again, the point you attempted to make with that last post was.......?
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can anyone provide an actual breakdown of what one does vs the other.

And not something stupid(Bert), of xbox vs a rock.


its really gonna come down to which is the better gaming box. Xbox looks to have more exclusives, initially, they usually jump platforms. But PS3 has the indie developers, now I haven't played any indie games, but this might be a new step for me. I'm still at least 1/1.5 years away, but we shall see till then.

or maybe its time for PC.
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The reversals in vidae's, jvig's and others approach would probably be the best bit if it actually turned out true.
Uhhh okay. I think we ALL said the limitations by Microsoft were dumb, but they didn't impact us in anyway so we didn't care. I mean, if we had been saying, "WOO! WE LOVE THIS 24 HOUR CONNECT FEATURE! IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT!" Then maybe you'd have a point.

I think, if this is true, this just sort backs up that we've been saying that these weren't really final or official until the console came out.

Great move by Microsoft if true. Still should have never had them to begin with, though. Now they just need to ax the Kinect requirement and sell it separately so they can sell their console for $400. Then it's pretty much game on with the PS4.
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can anyone provide an actual breakdown of what one does vs the other.

And not something stupid(Bert), of xbox vs a rock.

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Cause Ive only posted it three times now.....

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS...iso n%20Chart

Although this now is up in the air pending the authenticity of that last report.
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I'm sure they will eventually, if they don't hit their target #.

Lets remember the arcade came out, Elite, Slim, another I feel like i'm forgetting. Given it was over a span of 8 years.

I'm sure its not that hard for them to change some coding where it doesn't need a kinect.
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Microsoft did confirm changes were happening, and the previously stated policies are no longer accurate. I would just wait and see at this point. They may reverse all their policies, they may not reverse them as much as we think. I think it's wise to wait and see.
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Cause Ive only posted it three times now.....

http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/PS...iso n%20Chart

Although this now is up in the air pending the authenticity of that last report.



I went back 1 page didn't see anything. it was quicker asking and you posting
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Microsoft did confirm changes were happening, and the previously stated policies are no longer accurate. I would just wait and see at this point. They may reverse all their policies, they may not reverse them as much as we think. I think it's wise to wait and see.
Oh sort of like weve said in one post or another (not that we were strictly arguing that by any means but we did on a numerous of occasions mention MS had still to reveal everything about their policies)? Weird. Somehow IN OUR FACE THO!
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I went back 1 page didn't see anything. it was quicker asking and you posting
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Oh sort of like weve said in one post or another (not that we were strictly arguing that by any means but we did on a numerous of occasions mention MS had still to reveal everything about their policies)? Weird. Somehow IN OUR FACE THO!
Haha, that's why some Sony fan boys just bother me. They feel this need to somehow always one up people who like the XBox, or to prove how dumb we are by choosing it over the PS4.

I mean, who cares? Especially if these rumors are true. There's very few differences between the consoles now. The main thing is: the PS4 is a bit more powerful and is cheaper. Now Microsoft needs to not be dumb and make a Kinect-less option and sell it for $400. Then it's pretty much just based on your preference, more than anything.
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can anyone provide an actual breakdown of what one does vs the other.

And not something stupid(Bert), of xbox vs a rock.


its really gonna come down to which is the better gaming box. Xbox looks to have more exclusives, initially, they usually jump platforms. But PS3 has the indie developers, now I haven't played any indie games, but this might be a new step for me. I'm still at least 1/1.5 years away, but we shall see till then.

or maybe its time for PC.
Lol I've posted plenty of factual comparisons about both in this thread. But keep it up. Read this.


http://m.guardiannews.com/technology...-4-at-a-glance
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The point being you were making a fuss over something that didn't even turn out to be an issue (if the reports are factual), while we just kept saying we'd wait to hear what the actual guidelines were from MS. Either way, we all stated they didn't largely effect us in the first place. So again, the point you attempted to make with that last post was.......?
What? This is not remotely an issue of "waiting to hear what the actual guidelines were from MS". In this particular case, MS clear delineated what the guidelines were. There was no ambiguity about the fact that for instance you would have to check in once every 24 hours. Microsoft clearly stated that was a requirement, they clearly stated that they had no intention to change, and there were no details of that requirement left to guessing. You can't now say, "yeah, well, we were planning to wait for them to completely reverse their policies all along!"
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on the off-chance you can get it to come up, those changes were confirmed. sorry if it was already said, but it seemed like a lot of 'wait for MS to say something' comments, so i may have missed one.
Ah nice. I had seen an article saying that Microsoft confirmed there were changes, but didn't seem to say exactly what they were.
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Haha, that's why some Sony fan boys just bother me. They feel this need to somehow always one up people who like the XBox, or to prove how dumb we are by choosing it over the PS4.

I mean, who cares? Especially if these rumors are true. There's very few differences between the consoles now. The main thing is: the PS4 is a bit more powerful and is cheaper. Now Microsoft needs to not be dumb and make a Kinect-less option and sell it for $400. Then it's pretty much just based on your preference, more than anything.
/braces for trogdor to come in asking to keep this thread neutral while condescendingly implying between the lines that its the xbox fans who are just rabbidly defending MS, because actually providing links to our arguments as opposed to following vague internet/forum rumors is constitutive of blindly/rabbidly defending MS.

And I admit I certainly got pulled in to more discussion (including now) by trolls and fan boys alike, and have down played certain aspects due to my decision, but honestly alot is to be said for the fact that the majority of this conversation has been over unsubstantiated claims made on the x1, and us having to go to this great of lengths to try to clear alot of that **** up (and make us feel better about our decisions ;) )
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separate comment for unrelated, but i don't think this changes many people's buy choice at this point. it's great for xbox people, and i'm happy you'll have a system that isn't, imo, crippled by stupid technical decisions. but i still don't want to pay $100 for a **** peripheral, and i'm still a spec *****. i'm guessing most people were either going to:

- swallow MS's/Sony's **** because they like games on either more (you could lump in the multiplayer experience here, as applicable)
- buy the lowest price

as much as the internet raged, i don't really believe that an appreciable number of minds were changed with the reversal.
I mean pretty much, the damage is done. They tried pulling it once, why support a company that may try to do it again next generation? (or just implement it mid generation this time?)

Pretty much an added bonus for the people already getting one, like you said.

/now back to fanboy wars
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