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Old 11-30-2013, 01:14 PM    (permalink
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Eric Ebron passes Vernon Davis & Heath Miller as most receiving yards in ACC history. Declared last week too.

Again, historically only 1 TE gets taken in the 1st. Might be one of the years where two get taken in the 1st if Amaro declares.
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Eric Ebron passes Vernon Davis & Heath Miller as most receiving yards in ACC history. Declared last week too.

Again, historically only 1 TE gets taken in the 1st. Might be one of the years where two get taken in the 1st if Amaro declares.
Most likely won't happen but you could make the case for Amaro, Ebron and Sefarian-Jenkins.
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You know the recruiting sites more or less nailed the TE's from the Class of 2011 absent Jay Rome.

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You know the recruiting sites more or less nailed the TE's from the Class of 2010 absent Jay Rome.
In fairness, it would be tough to get Jay Rome's 2010 ranking "nailed" since he was in the 2011 class.
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In fairness, it would be tough to get Jay Rome's 2010 ranking "nailed" since he was in the 2011 class.
I meant class of 2011 with ASJ, Amaro, O'Leary all having All American caliber seasons.
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Not understanding the ASJ hype. Troy Niklas needs more love. He's no less talented as a receiver and is one of the best pass and run blockers. Having the kind of season I was hoping to see.
That's what I'm talking about.
Is he leaving South Bend though after this season?
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Hope some team gives Justin Jones a look as a free agent
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Who is ASJ?
Austin Sefarian Jenkins, U of Wash. Great talent but sort of underachieved. Had some off the field issues and had questionable work habits but seems to have put all that behind him.
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Austin Sefarian Jenkins, U of Wash. Great talent but sort of underachieved. Had some off the field issues and had questionable work habits but seems to have put all that behind him.


Oh ok, I know of him. I didn't realize people were referring to him as that. I actually hoped we would be on our potential guy to draft list. Coach Pope probably could get his potential out of him.
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Most likely won't happen but you could make the case for Amaro, Ebron and Sefarian-Jenkins.
How good is Amaro? Would be he better than the 2 mentioned above?
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How good is Amaro? Would be he better than the 2 mentioned above?
it all comes down to preference. Amaro is probably the best of the 3 in the slot, Ebron is probably the fastest/quickest/best with the ball in his hands, and ASJ is an incredible blocker who is a traditional TE.
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How good is Amaro? Would be he better than the 2 mentioned above?
Big piece here on Jace Amaro:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/fut...-te-jace-amaro

It's a helluva breakdown.
In-depth.
Very detailed.
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Big piece here on Jace Amaro:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/fut...-te-jace-amaro

It's a helluva breakdown.
In-depth.
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He gets credit for blocking 180 pound nickel corners? So, by that logic, is Kasen Williams a TE prospect because he bodies defensive backs, too?

That's my gripe with Amaro. He's not a TE, he's a 6'6 250 lb WR. That's great, if that's what you advertise him as, but it isn't.

Turn on the Sefarian-Jenkins tape. He takes on 300 lb DEs like Eathyn Manumaleuna and pushes them like a blocking dummy. That's a TE.
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He gets credit for blocking 180 pound nickel corners? So, by that logic, is Kasen Williams a TE prospect because he bodies defensive backs, too?

That's my gripe with Amaro. He's not a TE, he's a 6'6 250 lb WR. That's great, if that's what you advertise him as, but it isn't.

Turn on the Sefarian-Jenkins tape. He takes on 300 lb DEs like Eathyn Manumaleuna and pushes them like a blocking dummy. That's a TE.
Problem with ASJ is consistant effort, everything else appears to be there.

I like Amaro more in the slot. Get him out in space and he'll be a back 7 nightmare.
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I've really liked Gator Hoskins as a move-TE/H-back since last year. Haven't really seen anything to make him stand out as a blocker, but he's got good hands and can create after the catch. Runs like a big running back when he's got the ball in his hands, which isn't something you see too often from a guy listed as a tight end.
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Problem with ASJ is consistant effort, everything else appears to be there.

I like Amaro more in the slot. Get him out in space and he'll be a back 7 nightmare.
He disappears in the box score, but those are games he has to block more.

I like Amaro more in the slot as well. He's a WR.
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I've really liked Gator Hoskins as a move-TE/H-back since last year. Haven't really seen anything to make him stand out as a blocker, but he's got good hands and can create after the catch. Runs like a big running back when he's got the ball in his hands, which isn't something you see too often from a guy listed as a tight end.
I do as well. I haven't seen very much since Marshall games aren't televised much out here, but people I trust say good things about him
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I do as well. I haven't seen very much since Marshall games aren't televised much out here, but people I trust say good things about him
I was trying to find some video of a catch he made yesterday against Maryland where he broke a few tackles and got another 15 yards or something after contact, with guys hanging off of him, but I haven't had much luck yet. His ability to move laterally as well as powerfully makes him somewhat of a rare commodity in my eyes. I compared him to Aaron Hernandez in the prospect comparison thread quite awhile ago, but I think Hoskins is a bit more fluid and athletic. I think the Patriots have to be drooling over him - he's perfect for that offense. I can also see Green Bay getting a lot of use out of him (didn't they draft DJ Williams? Hoskins is a much better version of him.) Basically anyone who needs a "tight end" but doesn't need him to be either tall or an in-line blocker will get a lot of usage out of Hoskins as someone who can win against defensive backs and linebackers. Linebackers are going to have some problems with his agility and athleticism, and safeties and cornerbacks will have a tough time bringing him down. Against Maryland he took a couple of them for a ride.
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This class has everything,

Move guys like Ebron/O'Leary
Straight line guys like AsJ/Nicklas
Flexed/Big WRs guys like Amaro.

These guys all cause mismatch problems and with the current state of he position I would be surprised to see 3 guys taken in the first round/ or 6 in the top 64.
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My top 3 is:
Amaro
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Ebron
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I think Ebron is the clear leader and only sure 1st rounder.
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Haskins reminds me of a poor man's Charles Clay, actually.
He's shorter than Clay. More like a cross between Marcel Reece and Jordan Reed.
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I"d take a gamble for a mid round pick on Walford.
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