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Old 01-08-2014, 02:33 PM    (permalink
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Would texans trade the number 1 pick to Cleveland for 4 and 26 (or whatever it ends up as, Damn those colts)


or would Cleveland have to add? they do have plenty of picks with an extra 3rd and extra 4th
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Would Cleveland do it? I don't think they'd be sold on Bridgewater as their ONLY potential option, enough to give up more key building blocks.
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I'd probably do that if I were Cleveland. I think having Bridgewater would be better than having, say, Derek Carr and Cyril Richardson or something; the Browns are pretty well-positioned for success if they find a franchise quarterback, as they have a couple of real weapons on offense, a solid offensive line, and lots of talent on defense. However, if I were Houston, I would hold onto the first pick and take Bridgewater myself. There have been rumors that O'Brien prefers Bortles, but it's possible that Jacksonville would draft him with the third pick, forcing the Texans to take Carr (which may cause riots in Houston) or Johnny Manziel, who may not be the best fit for the offense.
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I'd probably do that if I were Cleveland. I think having Bridgewater would be better than having, say, Derek Carr and Cyril Richardson or something; the Browns are pretty well-positioned for success if they find a franchise quarterback, as they have a couple of real weapons on offense, a solid offensive line, and lots of talent on defense. However, if I were Houston, I would hold onto the first pick and take Bridgewater myself. There have been rumors that O'Brien prefers Bortles, but it's possible that Jacksonville would draft him with the third pick, forcing the Texans to take Carr (which may cause riots in Houston) or Johnny Manziel, who may not be the best fit for the offense.
These "rumors" arose from O'Brien complimenting Blake's performance after UCF played Penn State this year.
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Houston would be really stupid to do this.
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If your question is about the value of the trade, it's pretty fair. The Browns might have to add a late-rounder or 2015 pick.

But there are only a few very specific, select, and unlikely scenarios in which the Texans would want that deal. They'd only do it if they were SURE their guy would be there at 4 (if it was Barr I guess that's possible). And how would they know that? Or they'd have to have 4 guys rated so incredibly close that they would take whichever fell. But that's unlikely.
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I think the value of Bridgewater over whoever you can get at #4, is more than a late first round pick.
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Houston's owner has already hinted they could trade down and still get a good QB. Read into that what you will.
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I wonder if the RG3 debacle would make teams more hesitant to make a blockbuster trade up this year and in the future. Also the emergence of Blake Bortles as a secondary QB option to Bridgewater certainly lowered the value of that pick. This trade isn't worth it for Houston if you go by the Trade Value Chart, although I'm not sure how relevant that really is. Personally I would make this trade in a heartbeat if I was Cleveland as they're desperate for a QB and I see a big gap between Bridgewater and the next guy.
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Houston absolutely needs a QB so if they trade back, they have to think Manziel or Bortles is just as good as Bridgewater. It is similar to the Giants trading up for Eli and San Diego got Rivers plus a ton of picks and an a veteran or 2. It would probably cost 2 firsts, 2 seconds and a third rounder, of course not all coming in one year.

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2014 maybe a 3rd rounder
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2015 maybe the third rounder instead of in 2014
plus a starter.

Houston had better be sure they get their QB otherwise they are in a complete mess. Remember Jacksonville needs a QB and Oakland might just trade up with the Rams for a QB leaving Houston holding an empty bag.

If the trade were to happen, it would have to take place after the Rams made their pick, that's the only way Houston could guarantee that they get either Manziel or Bortles.
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Houston absolutely needs a QB so if they trade back, they have to think Manziel or Bortles is just as good as Bridgewater. It is similar to the Giants trading up for Eli and San Diego got Rivers plus a ton of picks and an a veteran or 2. It would probably cost 2 firsts, 2 seconds and a third rounder, of course not all coming in one year.

2014 #4 pick
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2014 maybe a 3rd rounder
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2015 maybe the third rounder instead of in 2014
plus a starter.

Houston had better be sure they get their QB otherwise they are in a complete mess. Remember Jacksonville needs a QB and Oakland might just trade up with the Rams for a QB leaving Houston holding an empty bag.

If the trade were to happen, it would have to take place after the Rams made their pick, that's the only way Houston could guarantee that they get either Manziel or Bortles.
How could Houston trade the #1 pick after the Rams made the #2 pick????
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I think the Browns are more likely to trade up to #2 from #4 than to #1.

I have a feeling were going to be targeting Manziel based on us seemingly scouting him quite a bit.

If I am Cleveland, I would tell Rams they can have our #4 pick and our high third rounder for the #2 pick or they can stand pat and gain nothing from sitting there. It is most likely that the Rams want Matthews or Clowney and that the Jags will target whichever QB the Browns end up not taking at 3.

^ unlikely to actually work but I wouldn't want to get hussled moving up 2 spots.

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I think the Browns are more likely to trade up to #2 from #4 than to #1.

I have a feeling were going to be targeting Manziel based on us seemingly scouting him quite a bit.

If I am Cleveland, I would tell Rams they can have our #4 pick and our high third rounder for the #2 pick or they can stand pat and gain nothing from sitting there. It is most likely that the Rams want Matthews or Clowney and that the Jags will target whichever QB the Browns end up not taking at 3.

^ unlikely to actually work but I wouldn't want to get hussled moving up 2 spots.

This draft should be one of the more interesting drafts ever.
With Clowney still on the board I have to imagine the Rams can find a better deal than the #4 pick and a 3rd rounder. Also, assuming nobody else trades with the Rams, I'd be shocked if Manziel wasn't still on the board for the Browns at #4.
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I wonder if the RG3 debacle would make teams more hesitant to make a blockbuster trade up this year and in the future. Also the emergence of Blake Bortles as a secondary QB option to Bridgewater certainly lowered the value of that pick. This trade isn't worth it for Houston if you go by the Trade Value Chart, although I'm not sure how relevant that really is. Personally I would make this trade in a heartbeat if I was Cleveland as they're desperate for a QB and I see a big gap between Bridgewater and the next guy.
The RG3 trade wasn't a disaster for the SKins. Mike SHanahan is a douche and RG3 missed the entire offseason rehabbing instead get the reps he needed with his WRs. He had no timing or sense of pace with the offense, and his mechanics were screwed up because he wasn't where he needed to be heath wise(was afraid to plant and throw off his injured knee.)
In 2014 he'll be nearly the same QB he was when he won OROTY.

I don't think a team is going to give Houston the motherload the Skins gave St. Louis to move up, but I would expect a team to offer the deal Atlanta gave to move up to get Julio Jones.

If you don't have a special QB in the NFL, you're a loser. Plain and simple.
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How could Houston trade the #1 pick after the Rams made the #2 pick????
Yeah, kind of stupid of me.
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The RG3 trade wasn't a disaster for the SKins. Mike SHanahan is a douche and RG3 missed the entire offseason rehabbing instead get the reps he needed with his WRs. He had no timing or sense of pace with the offense, and his mechanics were screwed up because he wasn't where he needed to be heath wise(was afraid to plant and throw off his injured knee.)
In 2014 he'll be nearly the same QB he was when he won OROTY.

I don't think a team is going to give Houston the motherload the Skins gave St. Louis to move up, but I would expect a team to offer the deal Atlanta gave to move up to get Julio Jones.

If you don't have a special QB in the NFL, you're a loser. Plain and simple.
I personally am not as down on RG3 as most and I agree that he really didn't have a fair chance to succeed this year(although he did that to himself in a lot of ways). However, you can't argue that the general consensus is that the trade has not worked out well for Washington at this point. The fact that they ended up giving up this year's #2 pick just reinforces the dangers of mortgaging your future for a single player.
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I personally am not as down on RG3 as most and I agree that he really didn't have a fair chance to succeed this year(although he did that to himself in a lot of ways). However, you can't argue that the general consensus is that the trade has not worked out well for Washington at this point. The fact that they ended up giving up this year's #2 pick just reinforces the dangers of mortgaging your future for a single player.
He won his conference his rookie year and made the playoffs, yes he failed coming off an injury in year 2 but the jury is still out on how great a player he will become. Eli was a flop for his first 3 years, but in the long run, he has given the Giants 2 Super Bowl wins. Was the Giants trade worthless, I'm sure Giant fans weren't too happy till year 4.

IMO, any sacrifice is worth it to get a true franchise QB, no cost is too much in a league were the QB is the key player.
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He won his conference his rookie year and made the playoffs, yes he failed coming off an injury in year 2 but the jury is still out on how great a player he will become. Eli was a flop for his first 3 years, but in the long run, he has given the Giants 2 Super Bowl wins. Was the Giants trade worthless, I'm sure Giant fans weren't too happy till year 4.

IMO, any sacrifice is worth it to get a true franchise QB, no cost is too much in a league were the QB is the key player.
Look at the QBs who've worn the burgundy and gold for the Skins since Theismann and Rypien. The SKins haven't had a QB remotely near the level of RG3 in over 20 years. The trade at least for the Redskins organization was worth it.
It's the same reason the Bears overpaid to resign Jay Cutler, or why the Cowboys gave Romo a $100 mil contract.


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If I were the Texans, I would do that. The team has quite a few holes to shore up actually and I think they would still be in position to take a QB at 4, plus in the late 1st they'd be in position to take secondary help they so desperately need.
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Similar question, as I just made a mock where it happens. Who says no to Nick Fairley and #10 for #2(Clowney)?
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How could Houston trade the #1 pick after the Rams made the #2 pick????
The Texans can pick Bridgewater and trade him whenever they want.
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How could Houston trade the #1 pick after the Rams made the #2 pick????
1. Take Bridgewater
2. If a QB is not taken at #2, trade Bridgewater's rights to Cleveland for a bunch.
3. If a team trades with St. Louis and takes Bortles, keep Teddy.
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It's an interesting question.

I don't think the Texans issues are purely QB. I think they could certainly win with either Keenum or Schaub with a healthy supporting cast and a fresh coaching philosophy. If they do get Romeo, I really don't see Clowney being all that useful.

You're talking about a team getting back a ton of talent from 2013's IR. Foster, Tate, Daniels, Smelley, Manning, Joseph, Cushing... Those are some huge pieces.

The weapons they'll have next year... Johnson, Hopkins, Posey, Martin, Graham, Daniels, Foster, Tate... And they get just as much back on the defensive side.
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Tate will leave 100%... But besides that, yes you are right.
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I think the Browns are more likely to trade up to #2 from #4 than to #1.

I have a feeling were going to be targeting Manziel based on us seemingly scouting him quite a bit.

If I am Cleveland, I would tell Rams they can have our #4 pick and our high third rounder for the #2 pick or they can stand pat and gain nothing from sitting there. It is most likely that the Rams want Matthews or Clowney and that the Jags will target whichever QB the Browns end up not taking at 3.

^ unlikely to actually work but I wouldn't want to get hussled moving up 2 spots.

This draft should be one of the more interesting drafts ever.
Yeah, I think the Rams' spot is where it's at. Let the Texans take the top QB and then get the 2nd best one at #2 (bridgewater/bortles). I don't think the Browns can sit at 4 and get a QB. If there is one good enough to go #4 the Jags will probably gobble him up at 3, or at least they would be dumb not to.

I have a feeling Carr will be viewed in that 8-12 range like Tannehill, Ponder, Gabbert, Locker, etc.

Manziel who knows, he's so small and there are bound to be polarizing opinions on him. He could go #3 or #4 or he could slide way down.
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