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April, 23, 2012

I believe the safest pick in the draft -- beyond Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III -- is Alabama running back Trent Richardson. He's a blue-chip player and has all the skills to quickly establish himself as a top-five player at his position. Forget the nonsense about not taking backs early -- everyone would love the chance to get this guy.

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That's pure gold, right there.
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I believe the safest pick in the draft -- beyond Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III -- is Alabama running back Trent Richardson. He's a blue-chip player and has all the skills to quickly establish himself as a top-five player at his position. Forget the nonsense about not taking backs early -- everyone would love the chance to get this guy.

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God that is amazing. I don't know if that means he would take him in the top 3 but jesus that is ironic.
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That is so amazing.

Just goes to show you that a lot of times analysts say things they don't really believe.
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Well that is before he saw him in the pros though.
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That is so amazing.

Just goes to show you that a lot of times analysts say things they don't really believe.
Or they shouldn't have hope for those first round draft picks.....
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Or they shouldn't have hope for those first round draft picks.....
He got Mingo right. I honestly love what he's done so far. I don't think Cleveland fans are being fair to him.
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Lombardi is an idiot anyway
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Fumbles aside Trent Richardson reminds me a lot of Ryan Mathews in one key sense: he should be better than he is. The on-field speed, strength and moves are there but the production just has a lot of trouble getting up to par. Interested to see how he does on a real offense.

Like the move for the Browns, think Indy overreacted giving up a 1st when half the league would probably give up a semi-quality young RB for a 2nd or 3rd. But excited to see how it pans out.
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Fumbles aside Trent Richardson reminds me a lot of Ryan Mathews in one key sense: he should be better than he is. The on-field speed, strength and moves are there but the production just has a lot of trouble getting up to par. Interested to see how he does on a real offense.

Like the move for the Browns, think Indy overreacted giving up a 1st when half the league would probably give up a semi-quality young RB for a 2nd or 3rd. But excited to see how it pans out.
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And the answer is simple: they both lack elite vision.
I honestly think that might be it. Tough thing to judge just watching games but once you eliminate enough other factors...
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After the Dolphins game and all the injuries we had the last 7 days, I had resigned myself to a 6-8 win season and a solid draft choice. Now that **** is out the window. I'm not happy about giving up a 1st for a RB, any RB. I do think having TRich on the team will help open up the offense, and for whatever reason this team is committed to being a power-run team even though we don't have the guys up front to do it. Richardson should help. But now we need to make the playoffs or else this trade is a failure.

And TH in answer to your question on like page 5 Vontae Davis has been a very good starting CB1 since the last 3 games of 2012. He looks pretty good this year too. Trading that 2nd rounder looks like it'll be worth it. But yes, signing Walden to his contract was really, really stupid.
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Yeah we don't care about your opinion on football as much right now as to where you've been and if you're back for good haha.
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If he had the vision Pierre Thomas has he'd be all pro.
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I'd post more in OT but I don't want to disappoint Brodeur when I'm wrong. Anyway I have Sunday Ticket finally so I feel informed enough to dish it out in NFL section again.
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Although the Browns lack a running game now, their 2 1st Round selections are not a bad consolation prize if they can snatch Hundley & Lee or Watkins. Just the thought of a new QB WR tandem to build on in the future is not as bad as it seems.
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If everything falls in place for them they'll have a sick offense. And they already have a very good defense.

Cleveland is on the come up.
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I know I'm hammering the Browns, but they really did make the right move. They still deserve to be hammered. As for the Colts, they also made the right move. They got a franchise RB for a first round pick in the 20s. Trent will pair really well with Luck. Richardson did deserve to go in the Top 10 last year, he just went to the Browns, unfortunately.

In team building these days, the RB is the last thing you really worry about because it's the position with the shortest lifespan. You can "get by" with pretty much anyone in a lot of cases.

The Vikings and Chiefs are the only teams that would be absolutely crippled if they lost their starting RB.
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You can tell how bad the Browns organization (not just team) is by how they have been handling their players lately. When Brandon Weeden got hurt, Jason Campbell thought he was the #2 QB and about to start for Weeden. To his surprise, Brian Hoyer is suddenly ahead of him on the depth chart.

Now a story just came out that Trent Richardson found out he was traded by hearing it on the radio. (I wonder if Reba McIntyre told Richardson to turn on his radio.) The fact that these things happened and the Browns are an annual last place team are not coincidental -- they go hand-in-hand.
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I believe the safest pick in the draft -- beyond Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III -- is Alabama running back Trent Richardson. He's a blue-chip player and has all the skills to quickly establish himself as a top-five player at his position. Forget the nonsense about not taking backs early -- everyone would love the chance to get this guy.

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Meanwhile Jim Brown bitchslaps Lombardi:

“I think the kid is a good working back, and if you’ve got everything else around him he can play his role,” Brown told ESPN Cleveland. “But when it comes to outstanding, I don’t see anything outstanding about him. It’s not said in a cruel manner. He’s very efficient, and that’s what you want.”

Also do we really need ESPN Cleveland? Talk about depressing.
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I hope the browns suck for the next 10 years and Trent kills it in Indy.
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You can tell how bad the Browns organization (not just team) is by how they have been handling their players lately. When Brandon Weeden got hurt, Jason Campbell thought he was the #2 QB and about to start for Weeden. To his surprise, Brian Hoyer is suddenly ahead of him on the depth chart.

Now a story just came out that Trent Richardson found out he was traded by hearing it on the radio. (I wonder if Reba McIntyre told Richardson to turn on his radio.) The fact that these things happened and the Browns are an annual last place team are not coincidental -- they go hand-in-hand.
This is also true, and speaks of a deeper problem at the organizational level. But the move itself wasn't bad.
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