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Old 09-27-2013, 10:33 AM    (permalink
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bbd, I can't account for WR drops or I'd go there but I can say he will not make a bad decision or throw until roughly 16 seasons from now.
You can't drop it when Matty put's it's so accurately in your chest that the jersey grabs onto the football bruh.
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Cassel will still try to force a ball to Bowe even though they play for different teams now. The Chiefs went from a QB that refused to throw to anyone besides Bowe to a QB that throws to everyone but Bowe.
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Bowe gotta stop running those skinny posts and start running those shallow crosses if he wants to get any catches.

If you're running past 8 yards the ball isn't coming to you.
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Bowe is a 50 million dollar decoy...
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Bowe is a 50 million dollar decoy...
For now. You'll draft a qb this year. Smith is just a rental while Reid builds his foundation there.
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drafting a qb in the seventh round doesn't count.
Why do you have to shatter their dreams so soon? At least let them dream for a little bit.
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I let that dream go along time ago.
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If you think about it, winning this year with Alex Smith is probably the worst thing that could have happened to KC. Now they're going to miss out on this qb draft class and Reid probably believes in Smith now.

We all called it though. I saw this coming from a mile away.

They'll go 10-6 go 1 and done in the playoffs and then get stuck with Smith for another 2 years, the rest of the team will get old before they figure out they need a qb and they have to start all over again.
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I'm done with Sam Bradford. There's no 'there' there.
He's holding back a team that should be much more competitive.
No running game and nothing on the outside. Where should they be more competitive?
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Reid is a good coach. He never got the respect he deserved in Philly. I just think it was a mistake taking a RT #1 overall and getting Smith, but for the most part I like what Reid is doing.

When you play it safe in the draft you're destined for failure. Safe is mediocre.
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No running game and nothing on the outside. Where should they be more competitive?
He's got some young weapons now, they're inconsistent because they're all either rookies or second year guys, but in the first two games they made plays for him. Can't speak to the last two as I haven't watched either the Dallas or SF games, but this team finally gave him some pieces to work with. I still think that come season's end this will be a good year for him, although again I didn't watch the last two games so maybe they've started to collapse :-/
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He's got some young weapons now, they're inconsistent because they're all either rookies or second year guys, but in the first two games they made plays for him. Can't speak to the last two as I haven't watched either the Dallas or SF games, but this team finally gave him some pieces to work with. I still think that come season's end this will be a good year for him, although again I didn't watch the last two games so maybe they've started to collapse :-/
Like you i haven't watched them a ton this year and last night i was in a bar distracted by a lot of good looking women but everytime i looked up nobody was open and they couldn't run the ball.
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No running game and nothing on the outside. Where should they be more competitive?
Excuses. Notice how the Jets run game and weapons magically look better with Geno at qb?

Terrible qbs never have weapons, OL, or a run game (and/or terrible playcalling) because they suck themselves and make everyone else look worse than they are.

Bradford is one of those quarterbacks, unless by some miracle he turns it around.
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May be excuses but I do think the Rams weapons are pretty terrible. Austin looks like the major reach many pegged him to be in this draft. Guy has done nothing thus far in the NFL.
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I used to defend Bradford but he is what he is. Mediocre.

He is gonna put up nice stats this year though, well solid ones. I am thinking 24 TDs 12 Ints. I think its also important to look at his YPC its gross... 6.0... no wonder Tavon Austin has like 20 catches for 120 yards or something ridiculous like that.
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That's true, I don't disagree with that, but I'm fairly confident that when we put on the all 22 you'll see guys open downfield that Bradford isn't targeting.

I can't confirm that bc I haven't watched it, but I'm confident that anyone who does have access to that could confirm it.
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Enough excuses for Bradford, he is what he is at this point.
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Eh, young receivers though, I get that now a days we see guys step and make an impact early, but that doesn't mean they don't still have a lot of growing to do and inconsistency to work through. His weapons will keep improving.

And in the games I watched he was using them well, doing a good job getting the ball into the hands of guys in position to make plays and throwing guys open when he had to. I mean if that pass doesn't get tipped right up to Osi against the falcons, or the defense doesn't let Ryan march right up the field in the fourth Bradford would have this really young team at 2-2 after playing the 9ers, Falcons, Cowboys and Cards.

Bradford has the rest of the year to convince me he sucks or not. So far he's looked good when I've watched, but the suckitude the last two weeks hurts that a lot even if I didn't see it happen.
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The Chiefs aren't missing out on much, imo. This QB class has Bridgewater at the top then there's a bunch of "interesting" after him but not much in the realm of "we really need this guy."

They can still end up with a Manziel or a Mariota at the end of round 1 (depending on how the rest of the year plays out) and figure out how they want to transition from Alex Smith depending on how well that guy plays in practice.

Reid is a very good coach who can make his offense work by covering up the flaws of his QBs. He has a crippling flaw in his clock management that has hurt him at times but, overall, his teams win. I'd rather have Marty Schottenheimer than Norv Turner.
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Bradford's play has been pretty appalling. If you want a quarterback who completes 58.3% of his passes for 6.2 yards per attempt, throwing checkdowns all game, you can sign Colt McCoy, whose figures in both of those regards are identical.
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Weird cause I didn't see any of that the first two games. In fact he stayed in the pocket, and took some hits to put the ball downfield where his receivers could go and get it. Guess the OL collapsing these past two weeks is really getting to him. That sucks.
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As for his ypa, that's kinda rough to judge him on because the rams use the short passing game in lieu of a running game a lot like Brady used to with the pats. That and the rams have just missed on a handful of big plays that would've boosted that number significantly.
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Bradford's splits:

Negative attempts (> 0): 23

Short attempts (0-9): 98

Intermediate attempts (10-19): 33

Deep attempts (20+): 12

He's a checkdown guy no matter how you cut it, with 72.9% of his throws traveling less than ten yards in the air.
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