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Old 12-02-2013, 12:27 PM    (permalink
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There's another Carr coming out this year. Texans should totes take him.
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what happened to those QB from UGA, and Clemson?
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What other Qbs are out there? Teddy and who else? I really haven't followed draft at all this year.
Most people are excited about the sophomores (true and redshirt) this season (Mariota, Manziel, Hundley) so were all kind of sitting around waiting for people to declare.

There's also wild cards like Mettenburger and Bortles. I'm really interested to see where they go.
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I completely forgot about Manziel. I'm so torn on him as a prospect. My brain says 3rd round at earliest. But it's hard to ignore his playmaking ability.
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what happened to those QB from UGA, and Clemson?
The former has a torn ACL and the latter played a football game against Florida State.
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But can they? That's the question. I'm not familiar with the cap hit. If say you lose 14 mill off the cap for cutting him but he's 15 mill if you keep him (hypothetical scenario) then I see no reason to cut him. I rather keep him and use him as a mentor/expensive backup.
If they cut Bradford this year, it's 7 million in dead money and 10 off the cap. If they June 1 him, it's 3 in dead money and 14 off the cap.

If they cut Bradford in 2015, its 3 in dead money and 11 off the cap.

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If they cut Bradford this year, it's 7 million in dead money and 10 off the cap. If they June 1 him, it's 3 in dead money and 14 off the cap.

If they cut Bradford in 2015, its 3 in dead money and 11 off the cap.

At least as far as I know.
To me it's a no brainer then. I'd June 1st cut Bradford even if I don't have a top 5 pick. He's not good. Move on.

Bradford has no business being on the team next year.
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Most people are excited about the sophomores (true and redshirt) this season (Mariota, Manziel, Hundley) so were all kind of sitting around waiting for people to declare.

There's also wild cards like Mettenburger and Bortles. I'm really interested to see where they go.
Bortles is an interesting prospect. Big guy with a good arm and moves well in the pocket. Like Bridgewater his level of competition isn't great.

Derek Carr is probably the best combination of smarts, arm and mobility out there. Again not playing elite defenses and the Carr name may scare some away but shouldn't.

Along with Teddy that would be my top 3 guys and wouldn't it be great if they all threw and did all the other stuff at the combine.
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Thank you Vikings!

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No he doesn't. That's Richard Sherman!
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If they can cut Bradford they will in this scenario, but I don't see how they can. My point is, just bc you're stuck with Bradford's salary doesn't mean you should use that as a reason to pass on Teddy. Take Teddy anyway. The money will balance itself out in 2 years when Bradford is off the books.
Huh? Why can't they cut Bradford now? Of course they can. The dead money is only half of his base salary. They'd save like 7 million dollars by cutting him.
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Ooooooh good point! That's EXACTLY who he is!!

The only thing RG3 has in common was the terrible hair.
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Huh? Why can't they cut Bradford now? Of course they can. The dead money is only half of his base salary. They'd save like 7 million dollars by cutting him.
Yeah I was unaware of that. I read somewhere that it was gonna be a gigantic cap hit if they did, I was mistaken.

I'd cut him on June 1st regardless of whether they have a chance to draft Teddy or not. They should move on from him no matter what.
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Yes he did, granted apparently I've seen every single good game of Bradford's career and missed all of the stinkers, but the kid's an NFL QB who can lead his that inexperienced and inconsistent team. But next year he needs to prove it, if he gets hurt again he's done as a starter, just can't be that injury prone.
Will you be saying that again for like the 54th straight year next season?
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Jaguars aren't the worst team in the league anymore!
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I think technically they weren't after last weeks win over Houston.

I was told in here that the Jags are the worst no matter what the records say. Must be the Blaine Gabbert affect.
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I think technically they weren't after last weeks win over Houston.

I was told in here that the Jags are the worst no matter what the records say. Must be the Blaine Gabbert affect.
The Jags are the longest rebuilding project still. Someone else can come in next year, make a few changes to Houston and they can be a winning team again in 2014 without question.

I can't say that with the Jaguars.
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The Jags are the longest rebuilding project still. Someone else can come in next year, make a few changes to Houston and they can be a winning team again in 2014 without question.

I can't say that with the Jaguars.
Not going to argue that but i think the question is who is the worst in terms of draft position.
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Not going to argue that but i think the question is who is the worst in terms of draft position.
That's correct. Houston is picking #1.
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That's correct. Houston is picking #1.
That'll be an interesting call if they have the #1 pick. Not sure there would be a big demand for that pick so they'd probably have to decide between a QB that is just good or a great defender like a Clowney. My guess is they would go with Clowney. If i had to go with a top 6:

Houston- Clowney
Atlanta - Barr
Jacksonville - Bridgewater
St Louis - Matthews
Minnesota - Carr
Tampa Bay- Watkins

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So Thursday's night game will decide who really picks #1
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That'll be an interesting call if they have the #1 pick. Not sure there would be a big demand for that pick so they'd probably have to decide between a QB that is just good or a great defender like a Clowney. My guess is they would go with Clowney. If i had to go with a top 6:

Houston- Clowney
Atlanta - Barr
Jacksonville - Bridgewater
St Louis - Matthews
Minnesota - Carr
Tampa Bay- Watkins
At the moment it is:

Houston
Jacksonville
St. Louis (via Skins)
Atlanta
Tampa Bay
Minnesota
Cleveland
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So Thursday's night game will decide who really picks #1
If the Texans lose clearly. If they win you'll have like 5 teams with 3 wins and good luck trying to figure that draft order out.
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I think Atlanta is the only team that doesn't take a QB.
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Yeah but what's the chances we see 6 qbs go in the top 7?
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