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Old 12-02-2013, 11:09 PM    (permalink
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Seattle came into this game 5th in yards allowed and 4th in points allowed. Are we to believe that was all a facade? Hmm...they are giving up a lot per run attempt and rank 29th there. But their secondary is top ten in YPA given up.
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Seattle came into this game 5th in yards allowed and 4th in points allowed. Are we to believe that was all a facade? Hmm...they are giving up a lot per run attempt and rank 29th there. But their secondary is top ten in YPA given up.
Playing with the lead will often tend to inflate your yards allowed per carry.
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Who is more elite: Russell Wilson or Blue Eyes White Dragon?
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Great game.

Very interesting against San Fran now.

I have a question. If the Panthers and Saints split their series and both finish 11-5, who wins the South?
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Great game.

Very interesting against San Fran now.

I have a question. If the Panthers and Saints split their series and both finish 11-5, who wins the South?
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Great game.

Very interesting against San Fran now.

I have a question. If the Panthers and Saints split their series and both finish 11-5, who wins the South?
11-5 or 12-4? 12-4 would occur if they both won out outside of their split, and I think New Orleans would have the advantage on conference record. Common games would be the same as both won the two differing games on their respective schedules.
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Great game.

Very interesting against San Fran now.

I have a question. If the Panthers and Saints split their series and both finish 11-5, who wins the South?

Given your scenario, it would depend if the Panthers fifth loss came against the Jets or the Falcons. If the Panthers lose to the Jets, well then it's a real quandary since if the the Saints go 2-2 (which would be required to get an 11-5 record) down the stretch, both teams will have the same division, common and conference winning percentages.


After that, it becomes a contest of strength of victory.


If the Panthers beat the Jets and somehow lose to the Falcons, then the Saints win the tiebreaker.



Edit: One other wrinkle I missed.

if the Saints lose to the Bucs and beat the Rams, and the Panthers lose to the Jets and beat the Falcons, the Panthers are in via divisional tiebreaker. Again assuming both teams finish 11-5.

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Quite interesting! It might make some random game in Week 17 be the difference between the 2 seed and the 5 seed!
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ESPN's playoff standings are a good resource for this. It seems like should they end with even records, the split being the lone difference, New Orleans would have it on common games, but the SOS will be the same for both teams from this point forward, so New Orleans will probably have the SOS/SOV tiebreakers in their pocket.
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It always amazes me when a pro player is better in the NFL than he was in college.

Brady is one of those guys. So is Wilson.

I among several others argued in 2012 that if Wilson had been 6'2, he'd be a first round pick. But man he's a beast. Didn't see this coming.

Developmentally, IMO he's so far ahead of any QB in his class and he's only going to get better.

Sure the Seahawks are a talented team, but Russell Wilson is one of the reasons the Seahawks are so formidable. He's not a game manager, Wilson is the guy with his foot on the gas pedal.

Seriously if Seattle avoids any major injuries it's hard to not have them as the favorite to win the SB.
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Let's not forget Russell Wilson was garnering a lot of Heisman talk for a while during his senior year...
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Yeah, Wilson was pretty ******* good in college. 39/4 total TD to INT ratio his senior year, and he was a stud at NC State too.
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Wilson was an amazing college qb who was dismissed solely because of his height. It really was that detrimental in the draft process.
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Wilson was an amazing college qb who was dismissed solely because of his height. It really was that detrimental in the draft process.
Perhaps this opens up the door for more quarterbacks that may be lacking the "ideal" height.
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Perhaps this opens up the door for more quarterbacks that may be lacking the "ideal" height.
Why isn't Kellen Moore starting some where then?
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Why isn't Kellen Moore starting some where then?
Because he sucks.
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Why isn't Kellen Moore starting some where then?
Noodle arm.
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Short qbs need to have the pocket sense of knowing where the throwing lanes are.

Also Wilson has the it, factor. ******* magic Yo.
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to overcome the small size, you need to have an elite characteristic and NFL quality tools. Brees had the elite arm, Wilson has an elite instinct, both would be good enough to play in the league otherwise, but that elite trait is what makes them top tier QBs.
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Why isn't Kellen Moore starting some where then?
"opens up the door" doesn't equate to short quarterbacks getting starting jobs regardless of any other factors. Way to jump the gun bro.
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to overcome the small size, you need to have an elite characteristic and NFL quality tools. Brees had the elite arm, Wilson has an elite instinct, both would be good enough to play in the league otherwise, but that elite trait is what makes them top tier QBs.
My guess is Johnny Manziel probably sat back with a beer and enjoyed that one last night.
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My guess is Johnny Manziel probably sat back with a beer and enjoyed that one last night.
not the first time I've watched wilson and thought about manziel in the nfl.
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He's underrated. Look at what he's done this year.
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