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Added what position the teams took at the end. Criticism and opinions, as always, are cool. Also, point out any errors.

Round One

Houston Texans-Teddy Bridgewater, QB, Louisville
St. Louis Rams- Jake Matthews, OT, Texas A&M
Jacksonville Jaguars- Johnny Manziel, QB, Texas A&M
Cleveland Browns- Sammy Watkins, WR, Clemson
Oakland Raiders- Jadeveon Clowney, DE, South Carolina
Atlanta Falcons- Khalil Mack, OLB, Buffalo
Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Mike Evans, WR, Texas A&M
Minnesota Vikings- Blake Bortles, QB, UCF
Buffalo Bills- Greg Robinson, OT, Auburn
Detroit Lions- Darqueze Dennard, CB, Michigan State
Tennessee Titans- Stephon Tuitt, DE, Notre Dame
New York Giants- Taylor Lewan, OT, Michigan
St. Louis Rams- Ra’Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
Chicago Bears- Kony Ealy, DE, Missouri
Pittsburgh Steelers- Louis Nix, DT, Notre Dame
Baltimore Ravens- Anthony Barr, OLB, UCLA
Dallas Cowboys- HaSean Clinton-Dix, S, Alabama
New York Jets- Jace Amaro, TE, Texas Tech
Miami Dolphins- Cyrus Koudanjio, OT, Alabama
Arizona Cardinals- Trent Murphy, OLB, Stanford
Green Bay Packers- C.J. Mosley, LB, Alabama
Philadelphia Eagles- Justin Gilbert, CB, Oklahoma State
Kansas City Chiefs- Kelvin Benjamin, WR, Florida State
Cincinnati Bengals- Zach Martin, OT, Notre Dame
San Diego Chargers- Jason Verrett, CB, TCU
Cleveland Browns- Derek Carr, QB, Fresno State
New Orleans Saints- Ryan Shazier, LB, Ohio State
Carolina Panthers- Marquise Lee, WR, USC
New England Patriots- Ra’Shede Hageman, DT, Minnesota
San Francisco 49ers- Calvin Pryor, S, Louisville
Denver Broncos- Kyle Van Noy, OLB, BYU
Seattle Seahawks- Eric Ebron, TE, North Carolina

Round Two

Houston Texans- David Yankey, OT, Stanford
Washington Redskins- Cyril Richardson, OG, Baylor
Cleveland Browns- Marcus Roberson, CB, Florida
Oakland Raiders- Timmy Jernigan, DT, Florida State
Atlanta Falcons- Austin Seferian-Jenkins, TE, Washington
Tampa Bay Buccaneers- Scott Crichton, DE, Oregon State
Jacksonville Jaguars- Dee Ford, OLB, Auburn
Minnesota Vikings- Bradley Roby, CB, Ohio State
Buffalo Bills- Deone Bucannon, S, Washington State
Tennessee Titans- Morgan Moses, OT, Virginia
New York Giants- Aaron Donald, DT, Pittsbugh
St. Louis Rams- Ed Reynolds, S, Stanford
Detroit Lions- Allen Robinson, WR, Penn State
Pittsburgh Steelers- Jarvis Landry, WR, LSU
Dallas Cowboys- Will Sutton, DT, Arizona State
Baltimore Ravens-Travis Swanson, OC, Arkansas
New York Jets- Xavier Su’a-Filo, OG, UCLA
Miami Dolphins- Antonio Richardson, OT, Tennessee
Chicago Bears- Anthony Johnson, DT, LSU
Arizona Cardinals- Zach Mettenberger, QB, LSU
Green Bay Packers- DeQuan Jones, DT, Penn State
Philadelphia Eagles- LaMarcus Joyner, CB/S, Florida State
San Francisco 49ers- Jordan Matthews, WR, Vanderbilt
Cincinnati Bengals- Chris Borland, LB, Wisconsin
San Diego Chargers- Trevor Rielly, OLB, Utah
Indianapolis Colts- Pierre Desir, CB, Lindenwood
New Orleans Saints- Brandin Cooks, WR, Oregon State
Carolina Panthers- Ahmed Dixon, S, Baylor
New England Patriots- Louchiez Purifoy, CB, Florida
San Francisco 49ers- Victor Hampton, CB, South Carolina
Denver Broncos- Jackson Jeffcoat, DE, Texas
Seattle Seahawks- Anthony Steen, OG, Alabama

Round Three

Houston Texans- Shayne Skov, LB, Stanford
Washington Redskins- Terrance Brooks, FS, Florida State
Oakland Raiders- Jeremiah Attaochu, OLB, Georgia Tech
Atlanta Falcons- Seantrel Henderson, OT, Miami
New York Jets- Lache Seastrunk, RB, Baylor
Jacksonville Jaguars-Joel Bitonio, OT, Nevada
Cleveland Browns- Yawin Smallwood, LB, UConn
Minnesota Vikings- Chris Smith, DE, Arkansas
Buffalo Bills- Troy Niklas, TE, Notre Dame
New York Giants- Marcus Smith, DE/OLB, Louisville
St. Louis Rams- Ka’Deem Carey, RB, Arizona
Detroit Lions- Demarcus Lawrence, DE/OLB, Boise State
San Francisco 49ers- Kelcy Quarles, DT, South Carolina
Dallas Cowboys- Jimmy Garapollo, QB, Northern Illinois
Baltimore Ravens- Davante Adams, WR, Fresno State
New York Jets- Odell Beckham, WR, LSU
Miami Dolphins-Terrance Mitchell, CB, Oregon
Chicago Bears- Jimmie Ward, S, Northern Illinois
Cleveland Browns- Gabe Jackson, OG, Mississippi State
Arizona Cardinals- Jack Mewhort, OT, Ohio State
Green Bay Packers- Keith McGill, CB, Utah
Philadelphia Eagles- Carl Bradford, OLB, Arizona State
Kansas City Chiefs- Jaylen Watkins, CB, Florida
Cincinnati Bengals- Logan Thomas, QB, Virginia Tech
San Diego Chargers- Chris Watt, OG, Norte Dame
Indianapolis Colts- Weston Richburg, OC, Colorado State
New Orleans Saints- Dion Bailey, S, USC
Carolina Panthers- Kareem Martin, DE, North Carolina
New England Patriots- Bishop Sankey, RB, Washington
San Francisco 49ers- Christian Jones, OLB, Florida State
Denver Broncos-E.J.Gaines, CB, Missouri
Minnesota Vikings-Dakota Dozier, OG, Furman

Round Four

Houston Texans- Carlos Hyde, RB, Ohio State
Washington Redskins- Telvin Smith, OLB, Florida State
Atlanta Falcons- Will Clarke, DE, West Virginia
Tampa Bay Buccaneers-C.J. Fiedorowicz, TE, Iowa
Jacksonville Jaguars- Tre Mason, RB, Auburn
Cleveland Browns- Cameron Fleming, OT, Stanford
Oakland Raiders- Paul Richardson, WR, Colorado
Minnesota Vikings- Carl Bradford, OLB, Arizona State
Buffalo Bills- Stanley Jean-Baptiste, CB, Nebraska
St. Louis Rams- Brett Smith, QB, Wyoming
Detroit Lions- Jeremy Hill, RB, LSU
Tennessee Titans- Charles Sims, RB, West Virginia
New York Giants- Bashaud Breeland, CB, Clemson
Jacksonville Jaguars- Donte Moncrief, WR, Ole Miss
New York Jets- Josh Huff, WR, Oregon
Miami Dolphins- Daniel McCullers, DT, Tennessee
Chicago Bears- Calvin Barnett, DT, Oklahoma State
Pittsburgh Steelers- Billy Turner, OT, North Dakota State
Dallas Cowboys- James Gayle, DE, Virginia Tech
Arizona Cardinals- Arthur Lynch, TE, Georgia
Green Bay Packers- Kenny Ladler, S, Vanderbilt
Philadelphia Eagles- George Uko, DT, USC
Cincinnati Bengals- Deion Belue, CB, Alabama
Kansas City Chiefs- Isaiah Lewis, S, Michigan State
San Diego Chargers- Spencer Larsen, OC, Utah State
New Orleans Saints- Calvin Barnett, DT, Oklahoma State
Cleveland Browns- Craig Loston, S, LSU
Carolina Panthers- James Hurst, OT, North Carolina
San Francisco 49ers- David Fales, QB, San Jose State
New England Patriots- Prince Shembo, OLB, Notre Dame
Denver Broncos- Justin Ellis, DT, Louisiana Tech
Seattle Seahawks- Montavis Bryant, WR, Clemson

Positions taken by team:

Houston Texans- QB, OT, LB, RB
Washington Redskins- OG, FS, OLB
Jacksonville Jaguars- QB, OLB, OT, RB, WR
Cleveland Browns- WR, QB, CB, LB, OG, OT, S
Oakland Raiders- DE, DT, OLB, WR
Atlanta Falcons- OLB, TE, OT, DE
Tampa Bay Buccaneers- WR, DE, TE
Minnesota Vikings- QB, CB, DE, OG, OLB
Buffalo Bills- OT, S, TE, CB
Detroit Lions- CB, WR, DE, RB
Tennessee Titans- DE, OT, RB
New York Giants- OT, DT, OLB, CB
St. Louis Rams- OT, DT, S, RB, QB
Chicago Bears- DE, DT, S, DT
Pittsburgh Steelers- DT, WR, OT
Baltimore Ravens- OLB, OC, WR
Dallas Cowboys- S, DT, QB, DE
New York Jets- TE, OG, RB, WR, WR
Miami Dolphins- OT, OT, CB, DT
Arizona Cardinals- OLB, QB, OT, TE
Green Bay Packers- LB, DT, CB, S
Philadelphia Eagles- CB, S, OLB, DT
Kansas City Chiefs- WR, CB, S
Cincinnati Bengals- OT, LB, QB, CB
San Diego Chargers- CB, OLB, OG
Indianapolis Colts- CB, OC
New Orleans Saints- LB, WR, S
Carolina Panthers- WR, S, DE, OT
New England Patriots- DT, CB, RB, OLB
San Francisco 49ers- S, WR, CB, DT, OLB, QB
Denver Broncos- OLB, DE, CB, DT
Seattle Seahawks- TE, OG, WR

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Solid from a Packer perspective. Only thing I would say is that I view McGill as a FS convert (he actually came out of JuCo as a FS) so taking him and Ladler back to back isn't likely IMO. I'd say go with either McGill or Ladler there then take Ellis from LaTech in the 4th. Raji might be gone and Pickett is 34. They may view Boyd as a NT, but I think the position should be addressed and I like what I've heard about Ellis.
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I like the Patriots picks up until Prince Shembo, OLB really isn't that big a need. And it would be really bad to ignore the interior of the offensive line through the first four rounds of the draft. The RB pick is interesting, I'm a fan of Sankey and with Blount likely signing elsewhere another RB will likely be needed to be added to the mix.

I like the Dolphins selection of two offensive tackles. That would be a really smart move on their part in my opinion. You could potentially have book end tackles to protect Tannehill for the future.

You're probably going to get a lot of crap from people for having the Browns taking Derek Carr.

Overall a pretty solid draft.
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not bad saints picks but i dont really like any of em a lot either. Not really sure about the fit of shazier in a 3-4 tbqh, kind of a pure 4-3 backer to me
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Barr
D. Jones
Bailey
Fales

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Not bad for Atlanta but honestly don't see us going TE So early or taking a risk like Henderson.
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Couple of thought about the Ravens draft:

- I'm not as high on Anthony Barr as most, but at #16, Its probably to good to pass up. I'm curious though, why do you think he'll be available that late, considering that the vast majority of mocks atm have him as a top 5 lock?

- I would love to get Travis Swanson in the 2nd. Bye bye Gino Gradkowski. A+ pick.

- Devonte Adams in the 3rd is solid value. Personally I would prefer Donte Moncrief at that spot, but that probably just a personal preference.
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You have Calvin Barnett going twice in the 3rd round.
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I like it for the most part for Philly, but I would make a few changes just based off preference.

Would take Jordan Matthews in the 2nd over Joyner just because he doesn't have a true position in the NFL. Plays safety but too small and might not be good enough in coverage to play a lot of man coverage at corner.

Then I would likely take Bailey in the 3rd with our biggest hole being at safety. Would give us a great in the box safety who is a natural playmaker and ballhawk.

There is nothing wrong with what you did because they are all needs...but I think Joyner is in no mans land with his position.
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I wouldn't be sir prized if he passed McCoy on the depth chart. I think he might have a better arm and accurate arm then him from the highlights I thought. He also got some wheels too help us prepare for QB's as Wilson , RG3 and other runners etc.
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Man that started out good but really fell off for the Bengals.
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you addressed our two biggest needs for KC: secondary and WR
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All good draft for Sf until u draft qb in the 4rh, really? We don't need one now. Kaep is gonna be fine.
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All good draft for Sf until u draft qb in the 4rh, really? We don't need one now. Kaep is gonna be fine.
I honestly didn't know what other position to give them in the fourth round with their seventh pick, tbh.
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Man that started out good but really fell off for the Bengals.

Could you explain more? Thomas is a fast mover in the draft rankings, and someone believe he won't even get to that pick. Not to mention, I don't know how the Bengals feel about Dalton, but he does seem like he's as good as he'll be. As for Belue, the Bengals don't need another corner?
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Couple of thought about the Ravens draft:

- I'm not as high on Anthony Barr as most, but at #16, Its probably to good to pass up. I'm curious though, why do you think he'll be available that late, considering that the vast majority of mocks atm have him as a top 5 lock?
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He could've went #6 for me, but he fell. I'm curious to see where he goes in the draft because I'm just not sure where to fit him. I saw top 10 in some places, I also saw end of round one. "Deep" pass rusher draft, so maybe he or Mack slides a bit. In this mock, he fell to Baltimore, but Tennessee, Chicago, or Pittsburgh could've taken him.
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I honestly didn't know what other position to give them in the fourth round with their seventh pick, tbh.
No, it makes sense given the lack of a second quarterback under contract to the 49ers. Don't listen to him.
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Could you explain more? Thomas is a fast mover in the draft rankings, and someone believe he won't even get to that pick. Not to mention, I don't know how the Bengals feel about Dalton, but he does seem like he's as good as he'll be. As for Belue, the Bengals don't need another corner?
Thomas is garbage.
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Tuitts too high, Moses is too high. Sucky draft for the Titans
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I don't get the Bengals draft at all. Corner is maybe their biggest need and you have them waiting until the fourth to take one who was mediocre at best while at Bama. I understand the Bengals taking a QB but not before taking a CB and having that QB be Logan Thomas. He's awful. I don't care what he does in workouts. And they need a SLB, I don't think Borland can play that for them and DiManche has looked decent I've heard from their fans.
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Could you explain more? Thomas is a fast mover in the draft rankings, and someone believe he won't even get to that pick. Not to mention, I don't know how the Bengals feel about Dalton, but he does seem like he's as good as he'll be. As for Belue, the Bengals don't need another corner?
1. Good pick, he would probably be our LG for now (then maybe kick out)
2. I like Borland but I question the need/value for him here.
3. I can't get behind Thomas. Hue seems to want to play it out this year with Andy but it is early. He doesn't seem like the biggest Jay Gruden fan ever. So, who knows.
4. We don't really NEED another corner, or at least a 4th round CB who honestly would struggle to make the roster. Unless it is a great value at CB, I don't think we go that route at all.
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I don't get the Bengals draft at all. Corner is maybe their biggest need and you have them waiting until the fourth to take one who was mediocre at best while at Bama. I understand the Bengals taking a QB but not before taking a CB and having that QB be Logan Thomas. He's awful. I don't care what he does in workouts. And they need a SLB, I don't think Borland can play that for them and DiManche has looked decent I've heard from their fans.
Corner is only our biggest need if you are a sky-is-falling type.
Newman and Pacman played fine. Hall will be back. Kirkpatrick is showing a lot of promise as he gets more actual reps. He really only had one bad game tackling then 2 bad plays. Otherwise he has been fine and getting better.

If we add a CB, it will be someone with a ton of upside and probably adds to the return game. I have more faith in Kirkpatrick than a lot of guys.

Agree 100% about Thomas.
You are right sort of. We need a LB, and if it is Borland I could see Rey M sliding back to SLB where he was good as a rookie and Borland in the middle.
I'd rather have Skov regardless.
But I could also see a SLB in the mold of David Pollack. DE/LB hybrid if we lose Michael Johnson in free agency.
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Like the first two rounds and the fourth needs wise altough i can argue the specific players. The third round i really dont see much need in those areas and would prefer a center, tight end or even a second corner or receiver iver d-line and linebackers.

Also you have Hageman in there twice.
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Jets:

RD1: I am fine with that pick. Ebron might have more upside, especially as a blocker but Amaro might be the more "ready" TE so to say. Either one works.

RD2: Not sure about this. Colon has stated he wants to return under any circumstance if Rex was brought back and Winters while he struggled big time in pass protection, was Idzik's 3rd round pick so I can't see them giving up on him so soon. Better bet we sign some depth at guard and challenge Winters more so than use a high pick.

Now if we don't keep Austin Howard(Our RT)....then RT becomes a big need and one that could get addressed high in the draft or in FA.

RD3A: Have not been a big fan of the Jets taking a RB in the 1st 3 rounds but its not the end of the world. Would prefer we take care of our secondary here, this would be a good spot to get good value for a safety or something(If there is one)

RD3B: Good pick, very good WR. Would scare me they'd wait so long for a WR but I can't complain about the guy they get here

RD4: I am fine with a mid round WR to compliment the other WR we get but not one pick going to our lousy secondary is kind of concerning coming out of 4 rounds so far unless we go after TJ Ward and re-sign Cromartie or something.

Alright Jets draft but it leaves some questions still left open, in particular in our secondary.
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You went after Minnesota's main needs, no real arguments here.
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