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Old 04-06-2007, 11:35 AM    (permalink
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1. Michigan
2. Wisconsin
3. Penn State
4. Minnesota
5. Ohio State
6. Purdue
7. Iowa
8. Northwestern
9. Illinois
10. Michigan State
11. Indiana

Ohio State lost 18 seniors from last years team and Pittman, Ginn, Gonzalez.

Michigan has the best WR, RB and the best O-lineman in the country in Manningham, Hart, and Jake Long.

Minnesota has one of the easiest schedules in the Big Ten with Illinois, Northwestern, Indiana, Purdue on the schedule, Ohio State at home, Wisconsin at home.

Wisconsin returns a ton of guys including P.J. Hill. The loss of Thomas and Stocco will hurt be they are too talented and too experienced to drop off too much.
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You underrated Iowa too much; they may have lost Tate but their defense will be tough and they'll have a solid running game
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Old 04-06-2007, 11:51 AM    (permalink
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You underrated Iowa too much; they may have lost Tate but their defense will be tough and they'll have a solid running game

OK, but they went 6-7 with Tate last year, I'm not sure how they'll be any better without him. And while Albert Young is a very good runner, he can't run it every play.
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Another thing: Indiana will be better than last becuase Thigpen and Lewis are back and they could contend for a bowl game
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Enough about Iowa. They're supposed to be good every friggin year according to ESPN and they make Drew Tate out to be the next Tom Brady. Let it go, Iowa is not that good. The way people talk about Kirk Ferentz makes you think he created the game and invented the forward pass
1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Wisconsin
4. Penn State
5. Minnesota
6. Indiana
7. Illinois
8. Iowa
9. Purdue
10. Northwestern
11. Michigan State

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Having Minnesota above Ohio State is a Joke....

Not even gonna bother to argue this one because it'll be impossible.
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Old 04-06-2007, 03:05 PM    (permalink
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Having Minnesota above Ohio State is a Joke....

Not even gonna bother to argue this one because it'll be impossible.
OK, lets see Minnesota's schedule.

Bowling Green-Win
Miami (Ohio)-Win
at Florida Atlantic-Win
Purdue-Win
Ohio State-?
at Indiana-Win
at Northwestern-Win
North Dakota State-Win
at Michigan-?
Illinois-Win
at Iowa-?
Wisconsin-?

That's 8-4 if they don't win at home against Wisconsin or Ohio State or at Michigan or Iowa.

Ohio State

Youngstown St-Win
Akron-Win
at Washington-Win
Northwestern-Win
at Minnesota-?
at Purdue-Win
Kent State-Win
Michigan State-Win
at Penn State-?
Wisconsin-?
Illinois-Win
at Michigan-Loss

Buckeyes also 8-4 if they don't beat Penn State, Wisconsin or Minnesota.
Ohio State lost 18 seniors last year including Troy Smith and Quinn Pitcock and juniors like Pittman, Ginn, Gonzalez. Minnesota ahead of Ohio State isn't that far-fetched.
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1. Michigan
2. Wisconsin
3. Penn State
4. Minnesota
5. Ohio State
6. Purdue
7. Iowa
8. Northwestern
9. Illinois
10. Michigan State
11. Indiana
IU last? Come on now.
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I don't why people have the Gophers in the top half of the conference. New coach, new QB, lost starting WR and TE, and questions at RB and defense. They'll be good in 2-3 years, but they'll be lucky to be over .500 this year.
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I don't why people have the Gophers in the top half of the conference. New coach, new QB, lost starting WR and TE, and questions at RB and defense. They'll be good in 2-3 years, but they'll be lucky to be over .500 this year.

Which team doesn't have a new QB this year in the Big Ten? Seriously, QUESTIONS AT RB? Amir Pinnix-1,000 Yard Rusher 2 years in a row? They return 9 out of 11 starters on defense, obviously not a great defense but can only get better from here. Gophers easily have 7 wins.
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Which team doesn't have a new QB this year in the Big Ten? Seriously, QUESTIONS AT RB? Amir Pinnix-1,000 Yard Rusher 2 years in a row? They return 9 out of 11 starters on defense, obviously not a great defense but can only get better from here. Gophers easily have 7 wins.
All of those teams with questions at QB have defenses that have proven more than adequate the last few years. To put it nicely, the Gophers defense has been below-average.
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Another thing: Indiana will be better than last becuase Thigpen and Lewis are back and they could contend for a bowl game
IU will be in a bowl game next year. Guaranteed.
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Wisconsin
Penn State
Ohio State
Iowa
Purdue
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Michigan State
Northwestern
Minnesota
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Iowa 7th? Are you kidding? Yea, we lost Drew Tate but Christenson or Arvell Nelson will be starting and are going to be pretty good, we have a very good backfield with Albert Young and Damien Sims and have Tony Moeki who was the #1 Rated Tight End in the Nation 2 years ago, and our Defense only lose our two starting safeties.

We don't play Michigan or Ohio State next year, We'll finish Top 4 in the Big 10 next season.

Oh, and we're off the Radar which is very good for us.
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1. Michigan
2. Ohio State
3. Penn State
4. Wisconsin
5. Iowa
6. Purdue
7. Indiana
8. Minnesota
9. Illinois
10. Northwestern
11. Michigan State
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Iowa 7th? Are you kidding? Yea, we lost Drew Tate but Christenson or Arvell Nelson will be starting and are going to be pretty good, we have a very good backfield with Albert Young and Damien Sims and have Tony Moeki who was the #1 Rated Tight End in the Nation 2 years ago, and our Defense only lose our two starting safeties.

We don't play Michigan or Ohio State next year, We'll finish Top 4 in the Big 10 next season.

Oh, and we're off the Radar which is very good for us.
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How does Minnesota have a chance to score against Ohio State? Michigan might be better than OSU but no way OSU is losing any other games.
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1.Michigan
2.Wisconsin
3.OSU
4.PSU
5.Indiana
6.Iowa
7.Illinois
8.Purdue
9.Minnesota
10.Michigan State
11.Northwestern
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I could see tOSU going down the road of PSU last year. I think they will be decent, but I don't trust who ever is playing QB.

I think PJ Hill will start getting shut down as he will be keyed on and there is game tape now.

Michidan's defense will cost them a game or two.

PSU will continue to suffer on offense and it will cost them a game or two.

Iowa doesn't even play a decent team this year and should be kicked out of the big-10.

Northwester and MSU are going to be terrible and at the bottom.

Juice will win the heisman.
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Easily Michigan: Best QB, RB, WR, and OL in the Big 10. Some question marks on Defense but they should be fine.
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Bowling Green-Win
Miami (Ohio)-Win
at Florida Atlantic-Win
Purdue-Win
Ohio State-?
at Indiana-Win
at Northwestern-Win
North Dakota State-Win
at Michigan-?
Illinois-Win
at Iowa-?
Wisconsin-?
Let me revise this for you.

Purdue- Loss
Ohio State- no chance
At Indiana- Close call... IU has as much talent as Minnesota does tho
Northwestern- Tossup
North Dakota State- win
Michigan- Loss
Iowa- Loss
Wisconsin- Loss


Amir Pinnix is a serviceable runningback. He's a 1000 yard rusher, but I don't think many people are going to gameplan on trying to stop him. Anyway, who else is coming back that will be of any reasonable talent on minnesota? Returning 9 players on defense is cool if they're all good or have a high upside, but returning 9 bad players on defense simply means you'll have 9 crappy players who've played for another year...


Here are my rankings for the big 10...


1. Wisconsin (most complete team in the big 10. Good d, good o.. good coach)

2a. Michigan (I like michigan a lot, and they scare me, but their defense is going to be even scarier for Michigan fans. If Lloyd doesn't open the offense up more to score more points, they're not going to win more than 10 games. Furthermore, the loss of Adrian Arrington is going to hurt)

2b. Ohio State (The obvious losses on offense will take their toll, but all the tough games are reserved until late in the season, which will give the young players time to step in and be experienced. Ohio State IMO is an opposite case of Michigan. Return a dominating defense, with questions on offense. Simply a matter of how well the offense steps up.)

3. Iowa (I like Christianson a lot. More upside than Tate. Furthermore, they'll return a healthy albert young, a more experienced Dominique Douglas, not to mention a slew of other highly experienced players. They should be an 8 win team this year who will threaten some upsets against Wisconsin, Michigan, and OSU.

4. Penn State (I almost wanted to put PSU lower. I just don't see anything out of this team that makes me think they'll be winners. They havent had success on offense since they ran the spread option, and they're far from switching back to that with Morelli. Morelli may improve, but I wouldn't bet on him becoming any better than a John Stocco or Curtis Painter type quarterback. Their defense took some hits this year losing poz and a few linemen, and I just am not sold on Dwill and the rest of their supposed star players. Conner and King will have to carry their d, but I dont think it'll be enough.)

5. Purdue (Underrated team. They return a decent quarterback who can manage a game pretty well, a few defensive players, and some real talented wide receivers. They'll be a decent team who'll make a bowl game, but nothing special.)

6. Illinois (Obviously they're a young team, but they have a lot to look forward to. They should beat up on the low level big ten teams (minnesota, Indiana, Northwestern) and have a lot of young talent with high upside and another year of experience. Juice Williams is the big name, but their biggest break out star this year could easily be freak tight end Jeff Cumberland. I would put them higher, but the experience factor along with zook factor has me putting them a bit lower.)

7. Michigan State (they lose stanton, seem to always have a bad defense, and need a fresh start. However, they return a real talented coach, and a good runningback in Ringer. We'll see how they do next year. They could really surprise people however.)

8. Indiana (They have a decent quarterback who has some experience, a very good receiver in Hardy, and some experience back. They'll still be bad, but they won't be as bad as some of the other teams now.)

9. Minnesota (I can't name a decent player on this team aside from Pinnix. I have a hard time seeing them win many games this year. They do have good upside with coach Brewster, but it'll take a year or two.)

10. Northwestern (Same case as Minnesota, but replace Pinnix with sutton and theres your team.)
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gstock, I may be wrong, but I believe Arrington was only a junior last year. Or maybe there was a different reason he wouldn't be back?
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Iowa is overrated every single year no matter who they have at QB.
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Yea, ok. Name one year Iowa was overrated?
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Last year when they were preseason ranked #3 in the Big Ten. People just love Fernandez (or whatever his name is) because he was mentored by Belichick.
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