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Old 04-08-2007, 06:50 PM    (permalink
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Yea, ok. Name one year Iowa was overrated?
What about last year, Mark May was basically sucking on Drew Tate's **** the entire season.
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And I'm pretty sure us Iowa fans weren't. We underachieved last year more so than we were terrible.
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And I'm pretty sure us Iowa fans weren't. We underachieved last year more so than we were terrible.
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I believe Adrian Arrington was kicked off the team, or won't be playing next year. Not positive, but something of the sort. A michigan fan would know better.


Iowa won't be a "great" team next year, but they return lots of experience, have an easy schedule, and hopefully will be health.
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:41 AM    (permalink
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Ohio State will come in second at the worst in the big ten next season. They have an easy shedule and a great defense. i think that once wells starts getting 20-25 carries per game and running the clock we will roll. Only games i see us having the ability to lose are at michigan and v. Wisco. We will beat wisco since we are at home and will beat michigan because we don't lose to llllloyd carr.
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:43 AM    (permalink
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1. Ohio State
2. Michigan
3. Wisconson
4. Penn State
5. iowa
6. Michigan St.
7. Minnesota
8. Indiana
9. Illinois
10. purdue
11.Northwestern

also, to say that minn will beat us next season is one of the most absurd things i have ever heard. they are lightyears behind us in terms of talent and confidence
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i figured last year would put all this "they're losing _______ starters!!!!!!!" nonsense to bed.

guess not.
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When was Iowa overrated? How about the "Texas vs. Iowa" national title game prediction. Everyone made it seem as if Drew Tate were the second coming of Tom Brady...The one good year they had recently they were "co" champions of the Big 10, but actually came in second because they lost to Michigan. Every year ESPN tries to shove Iowa down our throats because of Ferentz, they're not that good.
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Despite Michigan losing so many defensive studs (Branch, Harris, Woodley, Hall, Burgess etc...) I think they will have a solid defense. Terrance Taylor is a very good DT who should anchor the defense, and Jamar Adams could be a star at safety. I am, however, very concerned about the cornerback situation, where Morgan Trent is the #1 CB by default. I'd love to see Warren emerge as the other starter, and by the end of the year maybe Carlos Brown could bump Trent to nickel or even better, the bench. Last I checked, the defensive coordinator is still Ron English and he is the best coach on the Michigan staff.
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i figured last year would put all this "they're losing _______ starters!!!!!!!" nonsense to bed.

guess not.
OH, so if they do it one year they will do it the rest of their existence? Cool. I mean 3 years ago you put that to rest to huh? When you lost 4 games...

Last years loses are completely different not to mention...None of your QBs are remotely as good as Troy Smith.
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craig krenzel was never highly touted or overly gifted, he was simply adequate and a good leader. if we can find a guy like that then beanie and the big olinemen will use up the clock and keep our defense off of the field.

Hey man can't we have a down year? i mean it's not like we ended up unranked or didn't make a bowl game.
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I would think Michigan is the favorite but wouldn't count out Wisconson(I like their run game) or Ohio St. After that it seems most people agree there is a drop off but you can always expect Iowa to compete and you never know what Penn St. will do.

This year though I'm curious to see what the Illini do now that Zook as been ratching up the recruiting.
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craig krenzel was never highly touted or overly gifted, he was simply adequate and a good leader. if we can find a guy like that then beanie and the big olinemen will use up the clock and keep our defense off of the field.

Hey man can't we have a down year? i mean it's not like we ended up unranked or didn't make a bowl game.
... Your the ones that think you can't have a down year... first in the big-10.
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When was Iowa overrated? How about the "Texas vs. Iowa" national title game prediction. Everyone made it seem as if Drew Tate were the second coming of Tom Brady...The one good year they had recently they were "co" champions of the Big 10, but actually came in second because they lost to Michigan. Every year ESPN tries to shove Iowa down our throats because of Ferentz, they're not that good.
actually they have 2 big ten titles since 2000 so thats not their "one good year"

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What about last year, Mark May was basically sucking on Drew Tate's **** the entire season.
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Last year when they were preseason ranked #3 in the Big Ten. People just love Fernandez (or whatever his name is) because he was mentored by Belichick.
who the ___ is Fernandez? if you mean ferentz thats not even close and you should be shot

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3. Iowa (I like Christianson a lot. More upside than Tate. Furthermore, they'll return a healthy albert young, a more experienced Dominique Douglas, not to mention a slew of other highly experienced players. They should be an 8 win team this year who will threaten some upsets against Wisconsin, Michigan, and OSU.
we dont play michigan or OSU this year


ok that all being said...yes we do get overrated. 2 years ago we were preseason top 5-6 and finished a unimpressive 7-5 and last year again were rated highly but finished 6-7. we do have alot of our team returning including the most experience DL in the conference. hopefully we will be unranked and have no high predictions at all because thats when we tend to do better (atleast recently). so given our easy schedule and # of returning players theres no way we should finish any less than 5-6 in the B10.

and anyone saying Illinois/Juice will have a "great" year or whatever, remember they still have Zook coaching, so thats automatically 5 losses before the season starts (at least)

1. michigan
2. wisconsin
3. iowa
4. indiana
5. osu
6. penn st.
7. purdue
8. minnesota
9. illinois
10. northwestern
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and it's only a matter of time before some idiot comes in here and starts saying how the SEC is better than the Big Ten because they have nothing else to do...so this thread will be ruined shortly lol
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I think Ohio State is in for a down year this year with Michigan, Wisconsin, and Iowa finishing ahead of them(in that order). They lost way too much talent and don't have the depth to replace it quite yet
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1. michigan
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4. indiana
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7. purdue
8. minnesota
9. illinois
10. northwestern
11. MSU
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haha theres bound to be a darkhorse in the standings (i.e. wisconsin this year) and I like what indiana has to offer this year
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haha theres bound to be a darkhorse in the standings (i.e. wisconsin this year) and I like what indiana has to offer this year
I don't know if they can ride that offense while having such a horrendous defense.
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yea well i figure they will beat the lower teams like MSU, NW, etc. and maybe pull a couple upsets, plus with other teams upsets might vault them that high? idk just one wild prediction amongst some somewhat safe bets
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yea well i figure they will beat the lower teams like MSU, NW, etc. and maybe pull a couple upsets, plus with other teams upsets might vault them that high? idk just one wild prediction amongst some somewhat safe bets

I'd be more willing to go with Illinois as the darkhorse over Indiana because Illinois at least has some solid players on defense.
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I'm tempted to say Illinois is a darkhorse, but like someone else said earlier, it's still Ron Zook coaching
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OH, so if they do it one year they will do it the rest of their existence? Cool. I mean 3 years ago you put that to rest to huh? When you lost 4 games...

Last years loses are completely different not to mention...None of your QBs are remotely as good as Troy Smith.
you're right....it's possible they could have a down year, so every single year they lose people to the draft and graduation every other Big10 team needs to shout about how OSU is losing so much and they'll be down.

As if OSU is the only school where kids leave from one year to the next.



How about this. When losing players to the draft and graduation resulting in a down year for OSU becomes the rule rather than the exception, then you can spout off all preseason about it.
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OSU loses far less talent this year than they did last year. We just haven't seen enough of the potential QBs to know how big the drop off will be at that position. And even then, whoever takes that spot will have more than a few games to get experience before OSU plays any of the better teams in the Big 10.
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When was Iowa overrated? How about the "Texas vs. Iowa" national title game prediction. Everyone made it seem as if Drew Tate were the second coming of Tom Brady...The one good year they had recently they were "co" champions of the Big 10, but actually came in second because they lost to Michigan. Every year ESPN tries to shove Iowa down our throats because of Ferentz, they're not that good.
You don't understand, outside of our Head Coach and our position coaches our Coordinators are terrible, they'll play agressive through the first have and then go conservative and blow the game, its really pathetic.
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