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Old 03-28-2014, 09:35 AM    (permalink
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I don't know how much I can say without revealing, but I don't have a special status that would have prevented me from dying.
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:35 AM    (permalink
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If anyone out there is a gifter/motivator, now would be a pretty good time to role reveal...
Yeah, I'd definitely risk a motivator/gifter it means outing and lynching the SK.

That is also assuming we believe Rufus. He's playing a dangerous game if he's lying, but I don't have any specific reasons to doubt him now.
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Rob and Witten.
If Rob is the Godfather... oh how I will revel in that fact.
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:36 AM    (permalink
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Yeah, I'd definitely risk a motivator/gifter it means outing and lynching the SK.

That is also assuming we believe Rufus. He's playing a dangerous game if he's lying, but I don't have any specific reasons to doubt him now.
If he is telling the truth, another alternative is that the SK was roleblocked by someone.
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Yeah, I'd definitely risk a motivator/gifter it means outing and lynching the SK.

That is also assuming we believe Rufus. He's playing a dangerous game if he's lying, but I don't have any specific reasons to doubt him now.
If he is telling the truth, another alternative is that the SK was roleblocked by someone.
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:38 AM    (permalink
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I still think Rob is evil, by the way.
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If he is telling the truth, another alternative is that the SK was roleblocked by someone.
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:41 AM    (permalink
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I still think Rob is evil, by the way.
As do I.

Also, got what I was waiting for:

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Day 2 Fenikz Melisandre has been lynched
Night 2 CJ Sansa Stark has been killed
Night 2 Vidae Robb Stark has been killed
So yeah, seems like we're dealing with factions. Also seems like there is a "mafia" in the Targaryens and their allies (Drogo, as evidenced by the tongue-ripping-out death.)

If Rufus is telling the truth and the SK was in some way prevented from killing, either directly or just the bad luck of his targets having night kill protection, that means there is a THIRD party with kills who took out CJ.
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I have been calling for it for a day now and he avoided death... Scummy play + BP = Godfather?

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Old 03-28-2014, 09:44 AM    (permalink
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As do I.

Also, got what I was waiting for:



So yeah, seems like we're dealing with factions. Also seems like there is a "mafia" in the Targaryens and their allies (Drogo, as evidenced by the tongue-ripping-out death.)

If Rufus is telling the truth and the SK was in some way prevented from killing, either directly or just the bad luck of his targets having night kill protection, that means there is a THIRD party with kills who took out CJ.
We need to kill the Targaryens. It is the current town goal and until that changes, we have to remain focused.

I'd love to hear from someone who can lend some support to rufus's claim.
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We need to kill the Targaryens. It is the current town goal and until that changes, we have to remain focused.

I'd love to hear from someone who can lend some support to rufus's claim.
I agree, and I'd gladly vote Rob as I'm with Cain in thinking he could be the GF. But if a gifter/motivator wants to come forward with who he targeted so we can also potentially name our SK, I'd like to hear that as well.
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Is jailkeeper+motivator a normal thing or was that just in the dbz game?
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Is jailkeeper+motivator a normal thing or was that just in the dbz game?
I've never seen that pairing before that game, but it made sense there due to the theme.

That's a good thought though and would explain why there was no night 1 kill, but almost two last night.
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We need to kill the Targaryens. It is the current town goal and until that changes, we have to remain focused.

I'd love to hear from someone who can lend some support to rufus's claim.
I understand your reasoning but we are behind the eight ball now. Outing a potential power role is not going to help in the long run.

I am still skeptical of Rufus but he is playing a very dangerous game at this point if he is lying.
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He's full of ****. He isn't a commuter and he doesn't have a post count limit per day. He's playing an evil Gonzo game but trying to make it look like something else. I'm pretty confident that Gonzo is evil.

My next choice would probably be BeerBaron. He explained his reasoning but his voting pattern still doesn't sit right with me. It's not a lot to go on, and I'm not SUPER confident in him being evil, but he'd still be my second choice.
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As much as it pisses me off to say this, Gonzo made a good amount of sense.

I still think fenikz is evil, or at least shady as ****. He pops in, posts a few times a day, and votes without any reasoning whatsoever. That screams scummy to me.

unvote : Gonzo (meh)

After fenikz, I'm still concerned with BB, but I'm still not sure what to think about Rob. Something about his play just rubs me the wrong way. I need to go back and read some more.
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Agreed that rob is our best lead. I still get a bad vibe from Trog but there hasn't been anymore hard evidence since he hasn't really posted.

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Rob looks bad in this but I also wouldn't feel great about Witten. Since fenikz was not mafia, I would say his pushing towards him but never actually voting for him looks sort of odd. Elvis also got into kind of defending fenikz when the votes got up there.

The whole SK thing is confusing to me, right now, given Rufus' information. But thoughts.
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I understand your reasoning but we are behind the eight ball now. Outing a potential power role is not going to help in the long run.

I am still skeptical of Rufus but he is playing a very dangerous game at this point if he is lying.
It's well worth it if we take out a serial killer.
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Rob looks bad in this but I also wouldn't feel great about Witten. Since fenikz was not mafia, I would say his pushing towards him but never actually voting for him looks sort of odd. Elvis also got into kind of defending fenikz when the votes got up there.

The whole SK thing is confusing to me, right now, given Rufus' information. But thoughts.
I can tell you now that I am not scum, and there has to be a reason that both of us were targeted and neither died. I have somewhat of a theory but I need more proof. If I come back as a liar lynch me and Ill fall on the sword myself.
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Gonzo went through a hell lot of work to come up with his Lannister story if he made it up. Are you thinking sk ?
I think he's more talking about BB being consistently in vidae's suspicions.
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Old 03-28-2014, 09:52 AM    (permalink
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Gonzo went through a hell lot of work to come up with his Lannister story if he made it up. Are you thinking sk ?
I don't know. Those Vidae posts seem to be alluding to BeerBaron with the occasional smattering of JR, Gonzo and Rob.

Not sure what Grizz was getting at.
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I thought I was pretty clear (or maybe I wasn't) about watching the way the votes went. I thought Brodeur and Cain were trying to direct us away from the mafia with their talk about factions. I was hoping to see Cain vote the same a Brody, but in fact he voted for Brodeur.

I have plenty of reasons to vote for Rob, but I don't have any evidence to support my doing so.
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Now back to being serious. The back in forth banter has muddled the clear intentions of many, so I am left with some of my own observations.
My top suspicion had been Gonzo, but with Fenikz' play over the last 12 hours, he has risen to my #2. If what Gonzo says is true, he is of no threat at night, just limited during the day - thus being a self inflicted wound if you will. Fenikz may have some ability to to hamper the town at night.
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I am in a meeting for the next 2 hours, but I assure you I am good. It also makes sense that I did not die. I'll explain in detail, but I am pretty sure Gonzo is lying....at least about his ability, not sure on character. I'd like to give him a chance to talk first.

Gonzo, care to come clean regarding your night action?
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