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Old 07-23-2006, 12:59 PM    (permalink
 
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Personally I don't think Hell is overrated at all. I think hell is definatly legit and has a lot of upside.
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Shawn Springs right now.
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Terrence Newman is overrated.
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Terrence Newman is overrated.
Personally I don't think Hell is overrated at all. I think hell is definatly legit and has a lot of upside.
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The over abundance of Boys fans on here makes the vote sway to Newman...polls dont work on NFLDC.

We all know who is the best corner in the NFCE.
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The over abundance of Boys fans on here makes the vote sway to Newman...polls dont work on NFLDC.

We all know who is the best corner in the NFCE.
Yes we do, its Newman of course. This board is just full of Cowboys haters...what is it that you hate so much? That we are the most sucessful team since 1960? That we have won 5 superbowls and been to 8? That we are called Americas Team? That we had a QB called Captain Comeback? That we are loved all over the world more than any other NFL franchise? Why all the anger anytime a Cowboy player is mentioned on this board? Why all the crying anytime a Cowboy player wins in a poll? A blind man can see all the bias in a New York minute...hey are some of you guys actually HOF voters in disguise?
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The over abundance of Boys fans on here makes the vote sway to Newman...polls dont work on NFLDC.

We all know who is the best corner in the NFCE.
Not all of the Cowboys fans are homer.. Am I wrong or you was the one who said that Cooley is better than Witten?
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Lito is my pick for now. I think Springs or Newman could be the best after this year, but for now I take Lito Sheppard.
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Can't say that Shawn Springs is overrated. In 2004 he had 5 INT's, 6 Sacks, 89 tackles and was only named as a 3rd alternate for the Pro Bowl, that's no respect.
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Lito is my pick for now. I think Springs or Newman could be the best after this year, but for now I take Lito Sheppard.
I guess the 3 or 4 times Lito got absolutely TORCHED against Dallas last year arent in your memory?

Whoever voted for Lito are the people that vote for Deltha O'neal to the Pro Bowl. Sheldon is WAY better than Lito. It's absolutely ridiculous Lito has twice as many votes as Sheldon. Absolutely ridiculous.
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The Eagles get no respect, this question is a joke it is easily Sheldon Brown. Terrence Newman is extremely overrated, and Shawn Springs is getting old and is not the player he used to be. Springs only had 1 pick last season, and 8 pass deflections. That is very mediocre, and he isn't as good in run support as he used to be. Brown is excellent in coverage, doesn't give up nearly as many receptions as Newman does, and is better at blitzing then the already mentioned cornerbacks. He had 21 passes defensed last season, which is more than Springs or Newman can say. Also when the Eagles needed it most, he made big plays. Against San Diego he forced a fumble on SD's last drive to end their chances at victory. He also returned an interception for a TD which sparked the Eagles comeback in KC. Lito Sheppard I will admit was terrible last season, but Sheldon was great. This poll is ridiculous because this site is infested with Cowboys fans who refuse to acknowledge that there are better players than they have that are not on the Cowboys.
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Lito is my pick for now. I think Springs or Newman could be the best after this year, but for now I take Lito Sheppard.
Lito was so bad last season. If the Eagles ever gave up a big play in the secondary, it was usually the fault of Lito Sheppard. He was actually outplayed last season by Rod Hood, our nickel back when Lito got injured.
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This poll is ridiculous because this site is infested with Cowboys fans who refuse to acknowledge that there are better players than they have that are not on the Cowboys.
Actually its infested with people that know little about football or its players. Its a site where we want to say Derrick Thomas is a top 3 Linebacker of all time, that Brett Farve is a top 4 QB of all time etc..etc...just plain silly! Thats the problem with the board. Not that its infested with Cowboy fans...if anything its infested with Cowboy haters. So yes these polls are a joke.....
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This poll is ridiculous because this site is infested with Cowboys fans who refuse to acknowledge that there are better players than they have that are not on the Cowboys.
Actually its infested with people that know little about football or its players. Its a site where we want to say Derrick Thomas is a top 3 Linebacker of all time, that Brett Farve is a top 4 QB of all time etc..etc...just plain silly! Thats the problem with the board. Not that its infested with Cowboy fans...if anything its infested with Cowboy haters. So yes these polls are a joke.....
So why is Newman winning these polls by such a large margin if everyones a cowboys hater, even though he isn't nearly as good as Cowboys fans, particularly Balaskonis will lead you to believe? What does Derrick Thomas have to do with this topic. Again it seems as if you are trying to brag about being a middle aged man on an internet forum. :roll:
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By the way, I'm not saying all Cowboys fans are homers, Staubach12 has yet to make a homer comment that I've seen.
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way too many cowboy fans on here when ANTHONY HENRY has 3 votes :shock: :shock:
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way too many cowboy fans on here when ANTHONY HENRY has 3 votes :shock: :shock:
Anthony Henry was better than Newman before he got injured last year.
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way too many cowboy fans on here when ANTHONY HENRY has 3 votes :shock: :shock:
Anthony Henry is a very good phyiscal corner,You obviosuly havent seen him play.
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Shawn Springs is overrated as hell.
Personally I don't think Hell is overrated at all. I think hell is definatly legit and has a lot of upside.
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way too many cowboy fans on here when ANTHONY HENRY has 3 votes :shock: :shock:
Anthony Henry was better than Newman before he got injured last year.
Brandon Lloyd destroyed Anthony Henry last season, btw.

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Shocker, Cowboys are always ahead in the polls. I wonder why.
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The over abundance of Boys fans on here makes the vote sway to Newman...polls dont work on NFLDC.

We all know who is the best corner in the NFCE.
Yes we do, its Newman of course. This board is just full of Cowboys haters...what is it that you hate so much? That we are the most sucessful team since 1960? That we have won 5 superbowls and been to 8? That we are called Americas Team? That we had a QB called Captain Comeback? That we are loved all over the world more than any other NFL franchise? Why all the anger anytime a Cowboy player is mentioned on this board? Why all the crying anytime a Cowboy player wins in a poll? A blind man can see all the bias in a New York minute...hey are some of you guys actually HOF voters in disguise?
Why are they so hated? Because they get every damn call they can get. Refs do whatever they can to sway things the Cowboys way. Ask any sane Lions fan about the game last year. Ask any sane Redskin fan which way the refs favor in the games. Hate is too weak of a word to describe my distaste for the Cowboys. A good portion of the fans are also extremely cocky and arrogant about their team.

I'd take Sheldon Brown, because I can and because I think he's the best corner in the NFC East.
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I'm not sure about who the best corner in the east is right now. What I can't get past is all the people saying Newman is so overrated. Please, one of you please explain to me what the job of a corner is, and then tell me where Newman was lacking last year. What was his deficiency? How can he be overrated when he didn't even make the pro bowl? What more can we ask of him? Just because he is dominating this poll doesn't make him overrated. Polls on here are worthless. What makes him underrated, is the fact that nobody (outside of dallas fans) mentions him among the elite corners, (when you watch a Cowboys game, what member of the secondary has everybody on his nuts?) when his play would indicate otherwise. I laugh when people mention Lito Sheppard as elite, while ignoring Newman. If Newman isn't best in the East, he's neck and neck with Sheldon Brown and Shawn Springs. Tough for me to say. I like all 3. Fact is, the most indispensible member of the Dallas secondary is Newman, not Roy Williams. Newman is more deserving of a trip to Hawaii, IMO.
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I'm not sure about who the best corner in the east is right now. What I can't get past is all the people saying Newman is so overrated. Please, one of you please explain to me what the job of a corner is, and then tell me where Newman was lacking last year. What was his deficiency? How can he be overrated when he didn't even make the pro bowl? What more can we ask of him? Just because he is dominating this poll doesn't make him overrated. Polls on here are worthless. What makes him underrated, is the fact that nobody (outside of dallas fans) mentions him among the elite corners, (when you watch a Cowboys game, what member of the secondary has everybody on his nuts?) when his play would indicate otherwise. I laugh when people mention Lito Sheppard as elite, while ignoring Newman. If Newman isn't best in the East, he's neck and neck with Sheldon Brown and Shawn Springs. Tough for me to say. I like all 3. Fact is, the most indispensible member of the Dallas secondary is Newman, not Roy Williams. Newman is more deserving of a trip to Hawaii, IMO.
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