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Old 04-15-2007, 08:35 PM    (permalink
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KC's offense is gonna be really bad next year....

They need to have a good offensive draft. They need a WR, LT, C, OG...and thats just on offense.

They need DTs and safeties too. Could be a rough year for KC fans.
We have a LT and we have Jared Page a steal in the seven round at FS he got a lot of player time filling in and will be the starter at FS going in to camp. The Chiefs also have Bernard Pollard at SS who they are really high on Page will be our cover guy and Pollard will be our run stopper. I think we will be fine on the left side of our line but we do need a RG now and could use a new center but I think Chris Terry can hold down the RT spot for at least a year we are not as bad off as people might think.
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What about the Center from LSU, is he still there?
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That's too bad to hear for KC fans atleased. This just adds to the problems to fill for them.
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Great great player, it's a tough blow to KC.
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Then get Ramirez in round 3.
You know, I've seen at least a dozen teams' fans plan/hope to get Ramirez in the 3rd.... which makes me think he's definitely not going to be there....
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Great point he had class unlike Roaf who left high and dry
Wow...Way to appreciate one of the most dominant offensive lineman to ever lace 'em up...He had every right to decide when and where he calls it a career....If the Chiefs weren't competent enough to have a serviceable LT on the roster if Willie decided to retire or sustained some type of season-ending injury, then that's their fault....

Willie Anderson could retire a week before the season and I would respect him just as much as I do now...
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You know, I've seen at least a dozen teams' fans plan/hope to get Ramirez in the 3rd.... which makes me think he's definitely not going to be there....
I know, thats what scares me.

The thing is, on this board, Ramirez is often more desired than a guy like Beekman, who by most scouts, is the better talent at OG.

So who knows. Whats the chances 4 OGs go in the first 3 rounds? Thats the hope Im clinging onto.
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So basically, the Chiefs O-Line is gonna be even worse next year.
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Yeah the Chiefs will be competitive but not a winning team. A great player is gone and unfortunately sports shows won't cover it like they should cause O -Line never gets recognition by the average fan.
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Wow...Way to appreciate one of the most dominant offensive lineman to ever lace 'em up...He had every right to decide when and where he calls it a career....If the Chiefs weren't competent enough to have a serviceable LT on the roster if Willie decided to retire or sustained some type of season-ending injury, then that's their fault....

Willie Anderson could retire a week before the season and I would respect him just as much as I do now...
he ditched the team right before training camp leaving the Chiefs with zero options at LT that is not right have enough respect for the team to give some notice so they can prepare
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he ditched the team right before training camp leaving the Chiefs with zero options at LT that is not right have enough respect for the team to give some notice so they can prepare
He put in so many good years for your team....come on, the Chiefs shouldve prepared anyway.

He was considering retirement the year before. He gave the Chiefs plenty of time to prepare his heir.

Its not his fault the Chiefs didn't get the memo that he's old and considered retiring even before this past year.
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This is a sad day to be a chiefs fan. Will Shields was probally one of the best o lineman to play the game. Willie Roaf and now Will Shields, I hate to say this but the chiefs are on the decline.
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Saw this on pft, take it for what it's worth:

http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm

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SHIELDS RETIRED OVER MONEY?
A league source tells us that Will Shields has announced his retirement for one primary reason -- money.
As in Shields wanted more of it, and the team wasn't inclined to give it to him.
Per the source, Shields recently said that he is willing to play at least two more seasons.
It remains to be seen whether Shields' retirement results in more money, or whether the Chiefs will let him walk.
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That seems pretty ridiculous. He thought about retiring last year as well, and it was obvious his body was deteriorating and he wasn't the same player.
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LJ was already screwed by getting Herm. Herm is a straight ahead play caller, Vermil was a cutback play caller.

If they can swing, a smart move would be to go:

1. Ben Grubbs, OG
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Shields started 15 of 16 games as a rookie in 1993, and then started every game from 1994 through 2006. What a warrior.

Per Shields' NFL.com profile.
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Yeah, but he's a JAG. They need a premiere guy.

I think they should trade back, and get Ryan Kalil and Levi Brown. That would be a nice start.

Then get Ramirez in round 3.

Use their 2nd on a WR.

The defense will have to make do with what they got for now. Get Marvin White and Dameion Hughes on day 2. Hope your DTs can hold up for a year.
Or hope that the Jenkins to KC rumors are true.
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LJ was already screwed by getting Herm. Herm is a straight ahead play caller, Vermil was a cutback play caller.
Yeah...except for the fact that they kept the same offensive system and simply promoted the old regime's offensive line coach to offensive coordinator. Not to mention the fact that Herm's background is on the defensive side of the ball.

Hooray for credibility.
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Man the Cheifs use to have one of the best lines in football but now they are lookin very average
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Yeah...except for the fact that they kept the same offensive system and simply promoted the old regime's offensive line coach to offensive coordinator. Not to mention the fact that Herm's background is on the defensive side of the ball.

Hooray for credibility.
Yet they were a more straight ahead team last year than the year before why?
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http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
LOL Shields has never been about the money he could have left us for a lot more in his prime but wanted to stay in KC this is just PFT being PFT.
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Good read on Will.

http://www.nfl.com/nflnetwork/story/10130387
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KC's offense is gonna be really bad next year....

They need to have a good offensive draft. They need a WR, LT, C, OG...and thats just on offense.

They need DTs and safeties too. Could be a rough year for KC fans.
We don't need safeties. Page and Pollard.
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We don't need safeties. Page and Pollard.
Bernard Pollard and Jarrad Page are going to be a great safety tandem. Two young safeties who are big and athletic, they could be something special.
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