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Old 02-11-2011, 07:35 PM    (permalink
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Overeem has never failed a drug test and was just as big in the Brett Rogers fight which was in the U.S.
Ya, Overeem is smart about it. He's not dodging the tests or Fedor now, but he had been for awhile. I just think that a big stink will be made about the fight if it's not in the U.S. Even though they could probably put together the biggest crowd for a fight EVER if they had the Overeem-Fedor fight in Japan (not sure what venues they have available).

Look, the guy uses PEDs. I don't care, I don't take anything away from the guy because he's obviously got amazing skill as well. I think the PEDs just got him to HW quicker, which is where the money is if you're fighting anywhere but North America.
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It's always one fight at a time with Fedor. They're letting Barnett and Overeem fight the first round in Japan, but Fedor's people sure as **** are going to make him fight in the States if Overeem gets past Werdum. And Overeem will have to be clean.

There's a ******* reason it's taken so long for them to fight. Overeem, until recently, was dodging both Fedor and the US athletic commissions. I really don't care that he's juicing, but I don't blame Fedor for not wanting to fight someone who's roided raging come fight night.
Really your love for your russian overlord is so strong that you think Overeem was ducking HIM? L-O-*******-L
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Just read the last page or so of argument on Fedor and Overeem and roids and whos ducking who. I just figured I would add my two cents from someone that is pretty neutral to both parties. I really do like both fighters but would not call myself a fan of either by any means.

-The question of steroids with Overeem in my mind is still not obvious. To have a frame such as his and being in a profession that necessitates intense training means that it seems like a potentially realistic weight gain. He just looks amazing because he is a professional athlete who takes very good care of himself in my opinion. I can't believe when people just put pictures of him as a lanky kid at 205 compared to him now as if its evidence. He just became a man. In fact, look at overeem's brother, he is huge too but just either isnt as commited or as blessed as Allistair, but he still is a huge dude and in decent shape.
-As for the whole Fed was ducking the Reem or visa versa, I really think it is very clear that Overeem is not afraid of Fedor. Overeem is so intensely confident that it truly borders on cockiness. He really doesnt seem afraid to fight anyone because he just believes he is the ****. As for Fedor, the more I see him and hte more i hear about him, the more it is clear that he is just a simple man who fights because he is gifted and doesnt really care about business or whatever. He does what his advisers say and he has not idea of the politics surrounding much of what goes on.
-When thinking about a fight between the two of them, it is really impossible to say until we see how fedor is after another longish layoff after his first loss. He doesnt seem like the type to get spooked from a loss, but you never know....after ten years of only winning, it is quite the shock to lose.
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Are the fights gonna be on showtime or on some other channel?
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showtime i believe.
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Just read the last page or so of argument on Fedor and Overeem and roids and whos ducking who. I just figured I would add my two cents from someone that is pretty neutral to both parties. I really do like both fighters but would not call myself a fan of either by any means.

-The question of steroids with Overeem in my mind is still not obvious. To have a frame such as his and being in a profession that necessitates intense training means that it seems like a potentially realistic weight gain. He just looks amazing because he is a professional athlete who takes very good care of himself in my opinion. I can't believe when people just put pictures of him as a lanky kid at 205 compared to him now as if its evidence. He just became a man. In fact, look at overeem's brother, he is huge too but just either isnt as commited or as blessed as Allistair, but he still is a huge dude and in decent shape.
-As for the whole Fed was ducking the Reem or visa versa, I really think it is very clear that Overeem is not afraid of Fedor. Overeem is so intensely confident that it truly borders on cockiness. He really doesnt seem afraid to fight anyone because he just believes he is the ****. As for Fedor, the more I see him and hte more i hear about him, the more it is clear that he is just a simple man who fights because he is gifted and doesnt really care about business or whatever. He does what his advisers say and he has not idea of the politics surrounding much of what goes on.
-When thinking about a fight between the two of them, it is really impossible to say until we see how fedor is after another longish layoff after his first loss. He doesnt seem like the type to get spooked from a loss, but you never know....after ten years of only winning, it is quite the shock to lose.
The thing with Fedor is time and time again he's had the opportunity to fight the best and he turns it down to keep fighting cans in the B-league.
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well to be fair he has an amazing deal with Strikeforce, I would certainly take that over being just another HW in the UFC
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Who do you guys think is gonna replace Hammil in 129 vs. Phil Davis. I'm praying for Bader or Rashad(although I doubt it)
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Don't have showtime...anyone know where I can watch the fights???
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I kind of love the PRIDE feel to this.
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man that chick is asking some incredibly stupid questions...wtf does the music Fedor listen to matter?
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lol, watching this interview is painful
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lulz hilarious fight, awesome.
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WOOOOOOOOO WOW...that was great...that's why I LOVE MMA ahaha
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Gianpiero Villante is from my area so its sad to see him get killed like that.
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And that is why you don't ever drop your hands, kids. Let it be a lesson learned.



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SF putting on a great card, my prospect to watch Del Rosario up next! Should be another brawl. Big Johnson is clunky and sloppy but has ridiculous power.
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Del Rosario is also my prospect to watch. Dude can be so good
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Some seriously powerful dudes, worried Del Rosario would struggle with the power.
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Damn did he even have time to tap?
He tapped when he got up because his arm got straightened out.
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I want to see Kawajiri in the US by the way.
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11% for Arlovski? You've gotta be kidding.
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