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Old 04-24-2012, 04:48 AM    (permalink
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...but who knows if Hendo can't land one of those short uppercuts from the clinch that destroys faces.
I give Henderson about a puncher's chance. Even if he does win, it won't likely be in convincing enough fashion to avoid having to see Bones in a rematch. Jon Jones is, in my estimation, the cream of the crop at 205 and I think the only guy that can beat him would have to come up from his reign at 185.
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I give Henderson about a puncher's chance. Even if he does win, it won't likely be in convincing enough fashion to avoid having to see Bones in a rematch. Jon Jones is, in my estimation, the cream of the crop at 205 and I think the only guy that can beat him would have to come up from his reign at 185.
I agree with this. I think Jones can take Henderson down and keep him down. Even if the fight stays on the feet, I can't see Hendo winning by decision which is the most likely outcome.
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Overeem out for 9 months. He has testosterone of 15 men.


Sucks that he got suspended. I wanted his overrated ass to get beat down by JDS.
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He's not overrated he's legit but let's see how he is off the testosterone. Will he rebound or look like Silva did against Gustaffson not on roids?
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Actually he has the testosterone of 60 men, they allow levels 4x the norm
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Jones is incredible. He's on the verge of having the best run at 205 ever. Chuck, Tito, and Wand, are the top three lightheavyweights of all time IMO, and Jones is better than they were to me. The only thing he lacks form them is a good streak, but even then all of those guys had some flaws in their title runs. Wand fought a ton of cans, Tito didn't fight Chuck, Chuck's title run was only rematches. If Jones beats Hendo I think he'd have the best 205 title run in history, and the only thing keeping him from topping Chuck would be a couple more top wins since Chuck beat great guys outside of his title reign.

It's crazy how mad Jones makes people too. I picked Rashad, and I've been a Rashad fan since TUF, but there's no point in hating Jones for beating him. Right now I don't see how you can't be a fan of Jon Jones. He's incredibly innovative in the cage, and he smashes guys. I couldn't give a rat's ass about his personality, and even then he's no worse than a lot of other guys anyway. He's really just a goofy ass nerd. I guess a lot of meatheads can't take the fact that some dork whups people's ass the way he does. lol
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I guess a lot of meatheads can't take the fact that some dork whups people's ass the way he does. lol
Joe Rogan made a comment about Anderson Silva that's similar to this one. He said that one of, he thinks, Silva's greatest strengths is that on the day to day, he doesn't carry around that false bravado or meat head machismo. He's so level headed that he can properly analyze his challengers on a fight-by-fight basis. It's a great advantage, knowing what the other guy does better than you.

As far as Overeem is concerned, I'm really indifferent. I think some of the numbers you guys threw out there were a bit inflated. From what I read, his testosterone to epitestosterone levels were 14:1. The allowed level is 6:1 and the average man carries around 1:1.

As for Overeem on the whole, he never impressed me early in his career. His win over Brock Lesner is equally underwhelming. To think he can walk into the UFC and get a title shot after beating 1 fighter is laughable. I not only think that JDS would have his way with him, but so would Cain Velasquez and maybe even Mir. I just don't have a ton of respect for him. And before you jump on my nuts, let me just say I've seen all I need to see of him between Pride and Strikeforce to formulate my opinion.
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I find it funny that people are still trying to go to great lengths to say that Overeem might be innocent. WTF more do you need than a positive drug test and people saying he tried to dodge the random drug test after the press conference? The good thing for him is that he can still fight in Japan where roiding is legal if things just don't work out with Zuffa, but in terms of image he's got to do a lot to change people's perception of him stateside.
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I like Jones, but a lot of the things he does just seem forced. As far his skill set, he gets by with good wrestling and being really good at utilizing his reach advantage. He's not a good or powerful striker and he's not very quick or fast. There's really no limit to where he can go with what he does combined with continuing to get better.
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Jones is incredible. A win streak that includes Rampage, Rashad, Shogun and Lyoto is probably the greatest four fight win streak I've witnessed. Once he beats Henderson (which I believe he will) and maybe Gustaffson, he is going to be in his mid 20's, having already cleared out the division.
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I like Jones and all but I kinda want to see Hendo knock his block off one time just to prove he's not invincible like some seem to think.
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Awesome smirk Farva.
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I dont think he is invincible, I just think he is really good at not getting hit haha
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Oh I agree but it only takes one and I'm hoping Hendo is the one to do it because he's the ******* man.
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if I had to pick someone who wont be afraid of getting in the pocket and going for it, it is Hendo
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Just rewatched the Penn/Diaz fight that was a WAR.
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Im only posting something this stupid because I want to get this thread going again with the big fox card tomorrow. I really like all the fights on the card and all of them for different reasons. Lavar vs. Barry is just gonna be striking, Hendricks vs. Koshceck may get interesting on the ground (I actually sometimes enjoy wrestling even if others find it boring. For some reason I like trying to work out the leverage and positioning in my head.) Belcher and Palhares could be a brutal submission and Miller vs. Diaz has the most divisional significance and features one of my favorite fighters in Jim Miller.
I dont usually give picks cause I suck but yeah.
Miller by GNP
Belcher by Decision
Koshceck by Decision
Barry by Knockout

Also, just a quick nerdy thing, I find it really cool when i see clips about Jim Miller training because I take bjj classes at the same place and its just surreal to see the same mats I do mundane tasks and attempt terrible technique on have some importance.
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It's Diaz time!
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Damn Korean Zombie tooled Porirer, that was surprising, KZ is a top featherweight now, he's so far from his brawls with Garcia. His ground game is so sick and of course he can bang with anyone.

On a side not Cerrone absolutely outclassed Stephens in a standup battle, if Diaz is going to sit and wait for a title shot I'd love to watch Cerrone vs Pettis in a title eliminator.
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Damn Korean Zombie tooled Porirer, that was surprising, KZ is a top featherweight now, he's so far from his brawls with Garcia. His ground game is so sick and of course he can bang with anyone.

On a side not Cerrone absolutely outclassed Stephens in a standup battle, if Diaz is going to sit and wait for a title shot I'd love to watch Cerrone vs Pettis in a title eliminator.
I still think Poirer is a top prospect and a guy to watch in the future, but he hasn't really beaten anybody close to Jung's level so Im not fully surprised by the result, but I was a little amazed by how dominating he was.

No knock on Cerrone but when he outclasses someone like that, it just feels like watching sparring and i find it semi boring. Not his fault, all matchmaking though. The funny part of this fight is that in the graphic beforehand, they gave Stephens the striking advantage just to give him one check mark out 3 to make it seem competitive.

The one thing that bothered most about last night was the Jabouin Houghland fight. I think the fight should have been stopped multiple times. The fact that Houghland was able to make it to the bell is not a justification. He just took a one sided beating after the fight should have been stopped. The worst part to me was that Florian and Anik talked about how tough Houghland is and how the ref clearly made the right call cause Houghland survived. I think that is a ridiculous statement but such is life.
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