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View Poll Results: Who deserves a title shot more?
Quinton "Rampage" Jackson 12 30.77%
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Old 09-22-2012, 11:52 PM    (permalink
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Vitor wasn't landing anything striking and Jones was ruining his lead leg......
Vitor was landing, but every time he was landing, he pulled guard. I don't think those kicks to the knee cap (another dirty as **** move) had much impact on Vitor. Everytime Vitor threw more than one strike at once, Jones was flustered.

Similar thing happened with Machida. He doesn't respond to being attacked very well, but other fighters worry about take downs way too much to attack him (most likely because they know he's going to rub his ******* elbow across their forehead).
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I completely disagree. I didn't see Vitor land anything significant and Vitor's lead leg was dead due to the side kicks. He actually collapsed hurt after one of them.....
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seriously kicking someones leg is dirty too?

go watch boxing
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I completely disagree. I didn't see Vitor land anything significant and Vitor's lead leg was dead due to the side kicks. He actually collapsed hurt after one of them.....
Wasn't a kick to the leg that dropped him. Was a kick to the stomach.

I hate those side kicks Jones does cuz I hate when people use the same move over and over and over and over again, but its clean, legal, and freaking works.
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Wasn't a kick to the leg that dropped him. Was a kick to the stomach.
well, same technique....different location. regardless, Jones dropped Vitor while they were standing.
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Just sad he couldn't finish the arm bar, even while Jones totally ****** up the defense.
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seriously kicking someones leg is dirty too?

go watch boxing
Kicking the kneecap. Not saying it shouldn't be legal, but I don't like the tactic.

I don't like elbows being legal period. Not unless they come up with a way to protect against them being used to cut like Jones and Florian do.
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So a couple of months late, but I just watched the Machida-Bader and am again bummed that both Anderson Silva and Bones exist. If either of them didn't, Lyoto could boss a weight class, but he won't go down to Anderson's division and he won't beat Bones dor the LHW crown. *sigh* love watching him fight though.
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Lyoto is great, love him. If he had KO power he'd be unstoppable, he tags people but he can't put them to sleep. Love his unorthodox stance, his wrestling and judo are solid, and his knees are awesome. Can't help but love the guy.
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Lyoto is great, love him. If he had KO power he'd be unstoppable, he tags people but he can't put them to sleep. Love his unorthodox stance, his wrestling and judo are solid, and his knees are awesome. Can't help but love the guy.
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Lyoto is great, love him. If he had KO power he'd be unstoppable, he tags people but he can't put them to sleep. Love his unorthodox stance, his wrestling and judo are solid, and his knees are awesome. Can't help but love the guy.
He's got good power, but it's not freakish the way some guys at 205 are. At MW he'd look like a monster, but him and Anderson haven't betrayed each other to cause a violent hatred between the two of them yet.
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I just loved the slow down on that gif and the way that douche Evans folded.
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Yea I didn't mean he has pillow hands either, was more referring to that I touch any part of your face and you're dead kinda power. It usually takes him a good 2-3 shots to get someone to fold.

Don't get me wrong though, I absolutely love Lyoto. I love that thing he does after an exchange where he kinda puts his hands up and circles away.
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He has power but he doesn't always throw with power.
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While true, it's easier to throw with power when you have the freakish strength of Bones or Shogun were even a stepping away jab can really tag a guy.
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As a white belt, I am amazed at the types of mistakes even I can see from professional fighters. He had the arm triangle but he seemed to almost not even want it?
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When he managed to get his leg free he went to full mount and it seemed to look like he wanted to get it from there but even Rogan was saying he doesn't want mount you want to hop off to the side...then he just let it go. Idk...wasn't very good BJJ. Was a good fight though.
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When he managed to get his leg free he went to full mount and it seemed to look like he wanted to get it from there but even Rogan was saying he doesn't want mount you want to hop off to the side...then he just let it go. Idk...wasn't very good BJJ. Was a good fight though.
Once he jumped back to mount, i assume his arms were just too gassed from squeezing his kneck while in hard guard like a moron.

Btw, on technical bjj, I am curious how there hasn't been more discussion over how stupid Jon Jones' armbar defense was?
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Once he jumped back to mount, i assume his arms were just too gassed from squeezing his kneck while in hard guard like a moron.

Btw, on technical bjj, I am curious how there hasn't been more discussion over how stupid Jon Jones' armbar defense was?
My dad was like "OMG....did you see how he got out of it? He knew EXACTLY what to do!" I was like No he didn't, he panicked and did what they tell you NOT to do.
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Wtf!!! This ref is a ******* idiot.
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My dad was like "OMG....did you see how he got out of it? He knew EXACTLY what to do!" I was like No he didn't, he panicked and did what they tell you NOT to do.
I heard people talk about how it was great how he stayed calm and powered out of it. It was the most basic triangle setup and then he defended it the worst way you ever can. My mind was blown.


Tonight, these refs are standing them up really really fast. Rogan may have a heart attack from rage.
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Anyone have a solid stream? The ones i'm using are lagging a lot.
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Anyone have a solid stream? The ones i'm using are lagging a lot.
If you weren't using firstrow...then try it...mine's running fine.

I don't understand how you stand guys up when the guy on top is throwing punches...albeit not hammers but guys like Fitch get allowed to stay down there forever doing exactly that.
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