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Old 04-29-2007, 09:14 PM    (permalink
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im going to predict our starting line-up

OFFENCE

QB- Brett Farve/Aaron Rodgers/Ingle Martin

RB- Brandon Jackson/Vernand Morency/DeShawn Wynn

LT- Chad Clifton
LG- Daryn Colledge
C- Scott Wells
RG- Jason Spitz
RT- Mark Tauscher

TE- Bubba Franks/Clark Harris/Zac Alcorn

WR- /1/Donald Driver/2/Greg Jennings/3/James Jones/4/David Clowney/5/Ruvell Martin

DEFENCE

DE- Cullen Jenkins/Kabeer Gbaja-Biamila
UT- Justin Harrell/Corey Williams/Johnny Jolly
NT- Ryan Pickett/Colin Cole
DE- Aaron Kampman/Michael Montgomery/Jason Hunter

OLB- AJ Hawk/Ben Taylor
MLB- Nick Barnett/Abdul Hodge
OLB- Brady Poppinga/ Desmond Bishop

CB- /1/Al Harris/2/Charles Woodson/3/Will Blackman/4/Patrick Dendy/5/Frank Walker
FS- Nick Collins/Marvial Underwood/Tyrone Culver
SS- Aaron Rouse/Marquand Manuel/Tyrone Culver

SPECIAL TEAMS

K- Mason Crosby
LS- Rob Davis
P- Jon Ryan
KR- David Clowney/DeShawn Wynn
PR- Will Blackmon/David Clowney
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QB-Favre/Rodgers/Martin
RB-Morency/Jackson/Herron
FB-Miree/Hall
TE-Franks/Harris/Lee
WR-Driver/Jennings/Clowney/Jones/Martin
LT-Clifton/Colledge
LG-Colledge/Moll
C-Wells/Spitz
RG-Spitz/Moll
RT-Tauscher/Barbre

RE-Jenkins/KGB
DT-Pickett/Cole
DT-Harrell/Williams
LE-Kampman/Montgomery
SLB-Poppinga/Rouse/Taylor
MLB-Barnett/Hodge
WLB-Hawk/Bishop/Taylor
CB-Harris/Woodson/Blackmon/Dendy/Walker
FS-Collins/Underwood/Culver
SS-Manuel/Underwood/Rouse

K-Crosby
P-Ryan
KR-Clowney/Bodiford/Herron
PR-Blackmon/Woodson/Clowney
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Old 04-30-2007, 08:13 PM    (permalink
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Offence

Quarterback

1. Brett Favre
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Ingle Martin

Runningback

1. Vernand Morency
2. Brandon Jackson
3. Noah Herron
4. DeShawn Wynn

Fullback

1. Brandon Miree
2. Korey Hall
3. DeShawn Wynn

Wide Receiver

1. Donald Driver
2. Greg Jennings
3. Robert Ferguson
4. James Jones
5. David Clowney

Tight End

1. Bubba Franks
2. Donald Lee
3. Clark Harris

Left Tackle

1. Chad Clifton
2. Daryn Colledge
3. Allen Barbre

Left Guard

1. Daryn Colledge
2. Tony Moll
3. Junius Coston

Center

1. Scott Wells
2. Jason Spitz
3. Junius Coston

Right Guard

1. Jason Spitz
2. Tony Moll
3. Junius Coston

Right Tackle

1. Mark Tauscher
2. Tony Moll
3. Allen Barbre

Defence

Left Defensive End

1. Aaron Kampman
2. Michael Montgomery
3. Corey Williams

Left Defensive Tackle

1. Justin Harrell
2. Corey Williams
3. Colin Cole

Right Defensive Tackle

1. Ryan Pickett
2. Justin Harrell
3. Johnny Jolly

Right Defensive End

1. Cullen Jenkins
2. Kabeer Gbaja-Biamilla
3. Corey Williams

Left Outside Linebacker

1. A.J. Hawk
2. Tracy White
3. Abdul Hodge

Middle Linebacker

1. Nick Barnett
2. Abdul Hodge
3. Desmond Bishop

Right Outside Linebacker

1. Brady Poppinga
2. Desmond Bishop
3. Abdul Hodge

Cornerback

1. Al Harris
2. Charles Woodson
3. Patrick Dendy
4. Will Blackmon
5. Frank Walker

Free Safety

1. Nick Collins
2. Marviel Underwood
3. Tyrone Culver

Strong Safety

1. Marquand Manuel
2. Marviel Underwood
3. Aaron Rouse

Kicker

1. Mason Crosby

Punter

1. Jon Ryan

Long Snapper

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well that about sums it up for me, I really don't think I'd change it much from that
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I think Rayner will remain the #1 K.
At WR I really wanna see Martin be the #3, and I think Ferguson could get cut.
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Martin will make the roster before Ferguson or Jones
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Unless they're on IR, Jones and Crosby are virtually gauranteed roster spots based on draft position. Never mind the fact (IMO) that they're better than the guys who are going to get cut.
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Unless they're on IR, Jones and Crosby are virtually gauranteed roster spots based on draft position. Never mind the fact (IMO) that they're better than the guys who are going to get cut.
I don't think Jones has proven he can play better in the pros than Ruvell martin or even Ferguson. Jones will have to earn his spot and if he doesn't pan out TT will have to take his medicine and cut him.
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I don't think Jones has proven he can play better in the pros than Ruvell martin or even Ferguson. Jones will have to earn his spot and if he doesn't pan out TT will have to take his medicine and cut him.
I didn't say that I thought Martin would be one of the guys to get cut.

Jones has a few traits that will make a virtual lock to make the team: he has great hands (on a team of guys with shaky hands); he plays aggressively and goes for the ball pretty ferociously (on a team with Ferguson, who basically runs his route, extends for the ball, and then watches the CB grab it out of his hands); and he's a strong runner after the catch. On film, he looks remarkably like Sterling Sharpe. He's definately a 3rd Round talent who fell through the cracks with most people. The other guy, Clowney, is an enigma on film, because he has Ginn type speed in shorts, gets open and makes the catch, but then gets caught from behind. I don't see him making a smooth transition to the NFL (he needs a year in an NFL S&C program).

On top of that, 3rd round picks rarely get cut as rookies. They do get "injured" a lot and placed on IR for a year. I wouldn't be surprised if one of these rookie WRs has an "ankle" injury and sits all year.
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I don't think Jones has proven he can play better in the pros than Ruvell martin or even Ferguson. Jones will have to earn his spot and if he doesn't pan out TT will have to take his medicine and cut him.
I really doubt that the Packers are going to cut a 1st day WR. The only reason they cut Cory Rodgers last season (who was horrible on the field) was because of his incident with the gun.

Martin may be able to grab a roster spot, but it's going to be a tough battle. Driver, Jennings, and Jones are all guaranteed spots. Ferguson is a great special teamer and is also the second most experienced WR in a very young receiving core. I think he'll end up being the #3. That leaves just one spot unless the Packers decide to carry 6 wide receivers. It'll be a battle between Martin and Clowney and some longshots such as Carlyle Holliday.
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I didn't say that I thought Martin would be one of the guys to get cut.

Jones has a few traits that will make a virtual lock to make the team: he has great hands (on a team of guys with shaky hands); he plays aggressively and goes for the ball pretty ferociously (on a team with Ferguson, who basically runs his route, extends for the ball, and then watches the CB grab it out of his hands); and he's a strong runner after the catch. On film, he looks remarkably like Sterling Sharpe. He's definately a 3rd Round talent who fell through the cracks with most people. The other guy, Clowney, is an enigma on film, because he has Ginn type speed in shorts, gets open and makes the catch, but then gets caught from behind. I don't see him making a smooth transition to the NFL (he needs a year in an NFL S&C program).

On top of that, 3rd round picks rarely get cut as rookies. They do get "injured" a lot and placed on IR for a year. I wouldn't be surprised if one of these rookie WRs has an "ankle" injury and sits all year.
I was going to bring up Anquan Boldin as a comparison for Jones, though Sharpe is in that same mold. Only time will tell if he'll ever be half the player those guys are (were), but watching him on film that's definitely the mold he's in, not a blazer but he's a strong, physical, reliable WR who can move the chains.

I'm very intrigued by Clowney, hopefully he'll be our answer as a deep threat. It'd be nice if he can develop as a kick returner too.
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Dont forget to Add Ryan Powdrell to the FB spot. If hes healthy 100%, i know he will be a day one starter. This kids a football player.
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Dont forget to Add Ryan Powdrell to the FB spot. If hes healthy 100%, i know he will be a day one starter. This kids a football player.
He'll have a tough time making the roster with Brandon Miree, Korey Hall, and possibly DeShawn Wynn all competeting for the fullback spot.
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He'll have a tough time making the roster with Brandon Miree, Korey Hall, and possibly DeShawn Wynn all competeting for the fullback spot.
I know him personally, and i think hes all but guarrented to make it if hes 100%. besides just cause you were drafted in the 6th/7th round doesnt mean you can make the team. Powdrell has 1 extra year learning the FB spot, plus he played in at our JC at time. I know he can make the team, hes like a Justin Griffith clone, but with more heart.
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I know him personally, and i think hes all but guarrented to make it if hes 100%. besides just cause you were drafted in the 6th/7th round doesnt mean you can make the team. Powdrell has 1 extra year learning the FB spot, plus he played in at our JC at time. I know he can make the team, hes like a Justin Griffith clone, but with more heart.
If the Packers saw that much in him, they would have taken him over Hall and Wynn. He's the underdog at this point.

How is he a Griffith clone? Griffith is a much better athlete.
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Bubba Franks is gonna get cut--I just have that feeling. The Pack is very high on Zac Alcorn, so I predict the TE situation to be Lee/Harris/Alcorn.
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No way. Bubba Franks is one of the safest players on the roster this year. At worst, he'll be the blocking tight end for the Packers. Expect him to be used in the passing game more often this year as well.
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No way. Bubba Franks is one of the safest players on the roster this year. At worst, he'll be the blocking tight end for the Packers. Expect him to be used in the passing game more often this year as well.
Well said Moses and I feel the same way
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Bubba Franks is gonna get cut--I just have that feeling. The Pack is very high on Zac Alcorn, so I predict the TE situation to be Lee/Harris/Alcorn.
Not sure where you got the info on Alcorn. jsonline had a quote from McCarthy after the season that he liked Tory Humphrey a lot and that he thought Tory had the best hands on the team.

Franks is gonna be back, unless he's hurt or flat out bombs in TC. He's a great blocker, though his receiving production last year was terrible. He's also a veteran leader and works as hard as anyone on the team. I would have liked a faster TE down the seam, but that's in conjunction with Bubba, not replacing him.

With all the receivers that TT has brought in, I don't think he can keep four TEs like last year, but you never know. Franks/Lee/Harris is the likely to me, though if Humphrey is healthy he could bump Lee or maybe Harris, though TT doesn't like cutting his picks.
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Offence

Quarterback

1. Brett Favre
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Ingle Martin

Runningback

1. Brandon Jackson
2. Vernand Morency
3. Noah Herron

Fullback
1. Brandon Miree
2. DeShawn Wynn

Wide Receiver

1. Donald Driver
2. Greg Jennings
3. Robert Ferguson
4. James Jones
5. David Clowney

Tight End

1. Bubba Franks
2. Donald Lee
3. Clark Harris

Left Tackle

1. Chad Clifton
2. Daryn Colledge

Left Guard

1. Daryn Colledge
2. Allen Barbre

Center

1. Scott Wells
2. Jason Spitz

Right Guard

1. Jason Spitz
2. Tony Moll

Right Tackle

1. Mark Tauscher
2. Kevin Barry

Defence

Left Defensive End

1. Aaron Kampman
2. Michael Montgomery

Left Defensive Tackle

1. Justin Harrell
2. Corey Williams

Right Defensive Tackle

1. Ryan Pickett
2. Colin Cole

Right Defensive End

1. Cullen Jenkins
2. Kabeer Gbaja-Biamilla

Left Outside Linebacker

1. A.J. Hawk
2. Tracy White

Middle Linebacker

1. Nick Barnett
2. Abdul Hodge

Right Outside Linebacker

1. Brady Poppinga
2. Desmond Bishop

Left Cornerback

1. Charles Woodson
2. Patrick Dendy
3. Frank Walker

Free Safety

1. Nick Collins
2. Marviel Underwood
3. Tyrone Culver

Strong Safety

1. Aaron Rouse
2. Marquand Manuel
3. Tyrone Culver

Right Cornerback

1. Al Harris
2. Will Blackmon

Special Teams

Kicker

1. Mason Crosby

Kick Offs

1. Dave Rayner

Punter

1. Jon Ryan

Holder

1. Jon Ryan

Long Snapper

1. Rob Davis

Kick Returner

1. Will Blackmon
2. Robert Ferguson

Punt Returner

1. Will Blackmon

Special Teams Players

1. Jarrett Bush
2. Korey Hall
3. Charlie Peprah
4. Jason Hunter
5. Tory Humphrey
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"Stealing Moses Formation" : Redux. Some spots it is only because of injury a guy is listed lower than where I think he'll be on the depth chart, like at SS and Underwood coming back from injury.

For the 53 spots, I split even with offense and defense each getting 25, and then 3 for Special Teams.

Offense (25)

Quarterback (3)

1. Brett Favre
2. Aaron Rodgers
3. Ingle Martin

Runningback (3)

1. Vernand Morency
2. Brandon Jackson
3. Noah Herron

Fullback (2)
1. DeShawn Wynn
2. Korey Hall

Wide Receiver (6)

1. Donald Driver
2. Greg Jennings
3. Robert Ferguson
4. Ruvell Martin
5. James Jones
6. David Clowney

Tight End (3)

1. Bubba Franks
2. Tory Humphrey
3. Clark Harris

Left Tackle (1)

1. Chad Clifton
2. Daryn Colledge

Left Guard (2)

1. Daryn Colledge
2. Allen Barbre

Center (2)

1. Scott Wells
2. Tyson Walter

Right Guard (2)

1. Jason Spitz
2. Tony Moll

Right Tackle (1)

1. Mark Tauscher
2. Tony Moll

Defence (25)

Left Defensive End (2)

1. Aaron Kampman
2. Jason Hunter

Left Defensive Tackle (3)

1. Corey Williams
2. Justin Harrell
3. Johnny Jolly

Right Defensive Tackle (2)

1. Ryan Pickett
2. Colin Cole

Right Defensive End (2)

1. Cullen Jenkins
2. Kabeer Gbaja-Biamilla

Left Outside Linebacker (2)

1. A.J. Hawk
2. Tracy White

Middle Linebacker (2)

1. Nick Barnett
2. Abdul Hodge

Right Outside Linebacker (2)

1. Brady Poppinga
2. Desmond Bishop

Left Cornerback (3)

1. Charles Woodson
2. Will Blackmon
3. Patrick Dendy

Free Safety (2)

1. Nick Collins
2. Tyrone Culver

Strong Safety (3)

1. Aaron Rouse
2. Marquand Manuel
3. Marviel Underwood

Right Cornerback (2)

1. Al Harris
2. Frank Walker

Special Teams (3)

Kicker

1. Mason Crosby

Punter

1. Jon Ryan

Holder

1. Jon Ryan

Long Snapper

1. Rob Davis

Kick Returner

1. David Clowney

Punt Returner

1. Will Blackmon
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Right Tackle

1. Mark Tauscher
2. Kevin Barry
You should have stole some ESPN INformation

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...e?statsId=6150
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http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/player...e?statsId=6150
Look at the date Barry was released, then look at the date of his post. I didn't know he was supposed to be able to know the future.
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