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Old 05-01-2007, 10:13 AM    (permalink
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Default Lions are going to have an amazing offense this year

We improved the o-line bringin in some real quailty players...we got a beautiful runningback trio (Jones- good combo of speed and strength, Bell- speed, TJ Duckett- Strength) and of course our wide outs Williams, CJ, and Furrey, and even Mcdonald. Its going to be fun to watch if everyone can stay healthy

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I sure hope youre right about the OLine, i agree that they are much improved if they can open up running lanes we should be in great shape.
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It's true... the OLine is improved. Last year, Peterman, Frank Davis and Jonathan Scott were starting at one time or another. This year, we'll have something along the lines of Backus-Mutilato-Raiola-Woody-Foster... and, if ANY of them go down, we'll have Manuel Ramirez, Zach Piller, Frank Davis, Jonathan Scott and Blaine Saipaia to fill in.

A lot stronger than last year. And, if one of the RBs goes down, we'll have solid players behind him.

Not to mention our receivers.

If Kitna can put up 4,000+ yards without an OLine and with a weak running game, Kitna OR Stanton can succeed with these upgrades.
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It's true... the OLine is improved. Last year, Peterman, Frank Davis and Jonathan Scott were starting at one time or another. This year, we'll have something along the lines of Backus-Mutilato-Raiola-Woody-Foster... and, if ANY of them go down, we'll have Manuel Ramirez, Zach Piller, Frank Davis, Jonathan Scott and Blaine Saipaia to fill in.

A lot stronger than last year. And, if one of the RBs goes down, we'll have solid players behind him.

Not to mention our receivers.

If Kitna can put up 4,000+ yards without an OLine and with a weak running game, Kitna OR Stanton can succeed with these upgrades.

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Yeah, the offense will be top 5 in the league this year IMO, if everyone stays healthy. However, They need to score at least 20-25 pts, to have a shot at winning a game and perhaps more than 30 if the defense struggles.
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BUT will our DEFENSE be amazing??? no
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Bullcrap. Balance wins championships.

And I want to see CJ in a game (even if it's preseason), getting open and doing everything he's supposed to do, before I say "no one can stop us." I have to be sure the coaching staff won't screw it up.
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H-mmm, whose the team with the best 2 WR's in the NFL, H-mmm Arizona, and where did they finish this year, H-mmmmm, 5th overall pick. I guess 2 great WR's aren't much without a QB and a good defense. Too bad Millen never noticed!!!
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H-mmm, whose the team with the best 2 WR's in the NFL, H-mmm Arizona, and where did they finish this year, H-mmmmm, 5th overall pick. I guess 2 great WR's aren't much without a QB and a good defense. Too bad Millen never noticed!!!

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H-mmm, whose the team with the best 2 WR's in the NFL, H-mmm Arizona, and where did they finish this year, H-mmmmm, 5th overall pick. I guess 2 great WR's aren't much without a QB and a good defense. Too bad Millen never noticed!!!
Arizona can't run the ball though. I think a decent running game can be as important as a good defense at times. I think the defense will be better than some people think. Marinelli's second year with the players. Shaun Rogers for a year hopefully. Ernie Sims should break out even more. White should help the pash rush, and Redding should continue his play for that big contract next year. If our front 4 play well which I belive they will it will make it easier for the secondary. Which improves the defense as a whole. But I don't think we can win until we can run the ball.
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H-mmm, whose the team with the best 2 WR's in the NFL, H-mmm Arizona, and where did they finish this year, H-mmmmm, 5th overall pick. I guess 2 great WR's aren't much without a QB and a good defense. Too bad Millen never noticed!!!
I agree. You can win with 2 great WRs and a great QB and its been done before. However, the problem is you won't get to the superbowl.
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I agree. You can win with 2 great WRs and a great QB and its been done before. However, the problem is you won't get to the superbowl.
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Arizona can't run the ball though. I think a decent running game can be as important as a good defense at times. I think the defense will be better than some people think. Marinelli's second year with the players. Shaun Rogers for a year hopefully. Ernie Sims should break out even more. White should help the pash rush, and Redding should continue his play for that big contract next year. If our front 4 play well which I belive they will it will make it easier for the secondary. Which improves the defense as a whole. But I don't think we can win until we can run the ball.
And the Lions can run the ball?
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H-mmm, whose the team with the best 2 WR's in the NFL, H-mmm Arizona, and where did they finish this year, H-mmmmm, 5th overall pick. I guess 2 great WR's aren't much without a QB and a good defense. Too bad Millen never noticed!!!
WHAT?! Haha! I think you could make an argument that Harrison-Wayne is better than Fitz-Boldin... sure, you'd just say it's "all Peyton Manning"... but you can't deny that Harrison-Wayne is one of (if not) the best WR groups in the NFL.

As LionSmack said, balance wins championships. Both Tony Dungy and Lovie Smith's defenses struggled in their 1st year in the Cover 2, and emerged the next year. They went out and drafted hard working players... players that WANT to play and want to fight for a job. I'd much rather have players that feel fortunate to play and will do anything to make the field than players that think they're too important to work to earn a spot. They took Francis, Alexander and Davis for a reason... they know what they want, and I have a feeling that the defense will suprise people next year.

Don't forget, IAC... we've still got Redding and Rogers in the middle with Francis, White and Edwards on the outside. If we can provide a brutal pass-rush, our defense will be great.

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This is sarcasm, right? I hope so.
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And the Lions can run the ball?
They've improved the OLine and brought in Dell and Buckett... which is MUCH better than Arlen Harris (and whoever else we had).
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ZOMG you are só right. That's why the Colts won the last superbowl.
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Kevin Jones also had basically a lost season. If we can get him going along with our WR's it will sovle a lot of problems.
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You can't prove a point because Canedian agrees, he agrees with everything you say is bad about the Lions.
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Did you happen to see how well the Colts defense played?
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They've improved the OLine and brought in Dell and Buckett... which is MUCH better than Arlen Harris (and whoever else we had).
wasnt aveion cason another? lol but i agree i think our oline is much improved as well as the runningback committee, plus u never know what brian calhoun could bring us. I dont think a season with a record somewhere around or above .500 is out of the realm of possibility, especially with this offense and an improved defense.
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We might as well just play Drew Stanton his rookie year.
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http://blog.mlive.com/highlightreel/...his_is_th.html


wow this makes me excited read this article with Martz talking about this offense and look at the play he describes...sounds fun
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