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Old 05-03-2007, 11:36 AM    (permalink
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God, I thought this thread was dead... Please be done!
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I have said it before, and I will say it again. Considering the injurys, Mcnabb is a middle of the road Quarterback.


Yea, he's top 5 or 6 when playing, but he is constantly injured. if Mcnabb was any other position, he wouldnt be regarded as an elite player because of the injurys
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Even with injuries, McNabb is in the top 40% of QB's in the NFL. He has to reprove himself physically before he can regain his status. Obviously, the Eagles are worried about his future.
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GRF, please tell me that was a typo.....


its injuries, not injurys.

I myself make a grammar mistake here and there, and spelling mistakes....so I won't kill you for it, but seeing that word makes my eyes bleed.
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I'll give GRF a pass for making a decent and legitimate point without pissing the rest of the forum off.
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Very true Bsaza...very true.
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I have said it before, and I will say it again. Considering the injurys, Mcnabb is a middle of the road Quarterback.


Yea, he's top 5 or 6 when playing, but he is constantly injured. if Mcnabb was any other position, he wouldnt be regarded as an elite player because of the injurys
This coming from the guy who calls Eli Manning "Mr. Clutch". Middle of the road, sure bud. Philly's "middle of the road" QB has led them to 5 division titles, 3 NFC Title Games and a Super Bowl. Let me know when Elijah wins a playoff game
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I love Rexy but I'd love to see Donovan in Chicago again playing for his hometown team, that would be awesome.
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Stop saying that! Reid will hear you and trade McNabb to Chitown for another lineman;)
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Excuse me? Lance Briggs? We don't believe in having three very good linebackers at the same time, when would Matt McCoy play? Silly trade offer.

I'm countering with Leak, whoever your #5 DE is, and a 2008 1st rounder to be used on CB Morgan Trent of Michigan for Donovan
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Like Bsaza is saying, keep McNabb for 2 years and groom Kolb.

I would have taken Stanton, Beck, and Edwards over him though. Stanton will be the best QB from this draft class. And that includes Quinn and Russell.
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Like Bsaza is saying, keep McNabb for 2 years and groom Kolb.

I would have taken Stanton, Beck, and Edwards over him though. Stanton will be the best QB from this draft class. And that includes Quinn and Russell.
The problem is that Kolb is supposedly best for their offense. D-McNabb has been the face of our franchise since 1999 and Kevin Kolb isn't gonna change that, they're only gonna let Donovan go if he can't play 100% and who wants a 30+ QB on his last legs?
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I think the Redskins might want an aging veteran who has name value. They can overpay him, stunt the growth of Campbell, and completely screw their cap...
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Oh, and Sniper, McNabb led the Eagles to 5 playoff berths, 4 division titles, 4 NFC Championship games, and 1 Super Bowl. I don't count the 2006 playoff berth as McNabb's. That was an Andy Reid-engineered, Jeff Garcia-assisted playoff berth.
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This is true my bad. Regardless, he's a great "middle of the road" qb compared to Eli
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Oh, and Sniper, McNabb led the Eagles to 5 playoff berths, 4 division titles, 4 NFC Championship games, and 1 Super Bowl. I don't count the 2006 playoff berth as McNabb's. That was an Andy Reid-engineered, Jeff Garcia-assisted playoff berth.
I'd sooner give credit for the Eagles' 2001-2004 "run" on the defense than Donovan McNabb, especially considering Jeremiah Trotter was and is more of a leader than McNabb ever will be (as has been openly acknowledged from the Eagles camp throughout the years), and I wouldn't hesitate to also credit the (poor) state of the NFC in that period. The NFC East especially was weak.
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You can't discount the Eagles' run because you think the NFC was weak. No one said peep about the Bills' run in the early 90's when the AFC was considerably weaker. Not a fair point, Geo
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I wish this thread would just die, though...
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(1) It's not fair to argue that the Eagles were able to make 4 straight NFCCGs because the NFC was weak in the frame? Especially when the Eagles only won 1 of those 4 NFCCGs, despite having HFA for the last 3, because they faced a team (the 04 Atlanta Falcons) that they had essentially had no chance of losing to? Why on Earth not?

(2) The point about the AFC is/was brought up in the Bills' case, but the Bills at least won an unprecedented 4 straight AFCCGs and proved to be the cream of the crop from their conference, even if they were beat badly in the last 3 Super Bowls (2 of which at the hands of a dynasty). That lessened the sting of that particular criticism.
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It's not apples and oranges. Certainly, the Bills executed well in their AFCCG's, but their level of competition was not all that different. The Eagles lost to the 2001 Rams (lost 20-17), the 2002 Bucs (dominated), and the 2003 Panthers (barely lost to NE). The Eagles had a very nice run. They made it to the 2001 and 2003 championship games on coaching and defense. They won the 2002 berth early, and an injured McNabb couldn't stack up. The 2004 season was a cakewalk.
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Regardless, the 2001-2005 playoff run for the Eagles is irrelevant to McNabb's status with the team. Let us move on.
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I think it's relevant, as the team can go back to that level of play with Kolb as long as they play great defense and run the ball. The latter will prove difficult by the very nature of Reid's mindset. I'll say this for McNabb though, the Eagles haven't done as good a job as they could have of supplying him with weapons.

The team has drafted so poorly at the wide receiver position that they had to sign a malcontent headcase to give McNabb the closest thing he's ever had to an elite receiver, and unsurprisingly McNabb had the best year of his career with and reached the Super Bowl, but that relationship had to end the next year as we all saw. They brought in a great fit for the offense in Donte Stallworth, but let him walk as well. I'm not crazy about the Kevin Curtis signing, truth be told - he has a better chance of staying healthy for 16 games unlike Stallworth, but I'll take my chances with Stallworth to make plays which win playoff games.

They also let Duce Staley go, but at least have had the wisdom to re-sign Brian Westbrook and recently draft Tony Hunt. I think that duo could be the best backfield they have had since Staley was a part of the team and helped punish opponents, although it remains to be seen if McNabb or Kolb reaps the most benefit of those particular moves.
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